"Although we define sleep as unconsciousness, the darkness and the experiential blankness are not the essence of sleep. For the pure awareness that is our basis there is no sleep. When not afflicted with obscurations, dreams, or thoughts, the moving mind dissolves into the nature of mind; then, rather than the sleep of ignorance, clarity, peacefulness, and bliss arise. When we develop the ability to abide in that awareness we find that sleep is luminous. This luminosity is the clear light. It is our true nature.”
Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche
Dream Yoga - Part 1
This teaching was live streamed from Lama Lena’s home on August 9th, 2020.
(See below for full transcript of this teaching)
Lama Lena: Okay, good morning, y’all. Welcome to this teaching on Dream Yoga. Dream Yoga is really important because you’re going to spend about a third of your life asleep. And that’s an incredible amount of time, useful for practice.
(Lineage prayer)
Sleep Supplements & Levels of Sleep
To start this, I want to talk a little bit about sleep, and how you sleep. Because how you approach Dream Yoga is going to depend on whether you are a deep sleeper or a light sleeper. Whether you fall asleep easily, or have to take a pill sometimes, or a tea sometimes to help you fall asleep.
Certain kinds of sleeping pills will interfere with dream yoga. So, certain kinds will not. For example if you take a sleepy time tea to enable yourself to fall asleep because you do not fall asleep easily, check the ingredients. If it has Valerian in it, it is not a really good idea. If you take Valerian to help you sleep, it will often diminish your clarity so that you will not have the more profound kinds of dreams. You may have only very random confused brief dreams. It interferes with dreaming, so does Valium unfortunately. Other things, either I don’t know about. I’m not sure about CBD. Don’t get good dream results if I take a CBD.
One thing I have noticed with old age is that I sleep much lighter; I used to be a champion sleeper. I could go to sleep anywhere I had the opportunity, no problem. Naps on a train. While sitting in a chair. I used to sleep in a gom-tree for years, no problem, but as I age, my sleep has become lighter. So occasionally I have bouts where I’m not sleeping deeply enough to get a good rest. And I have experimented with different things to help me. For me CBD is an interference. But I have no text to talk about that.
Valerian can be an interference because of its effect on the channels. It’s actually a constrictor. It is used among shamans when somebody has an oopsie, a trance channeler or a steed, has an oopsie, and has accidentally traps channeled some kind of snake oil salesman or idiot off plane and can’t seem to get rid of them. You dose them with Valerian high dose. It’s effective for that, but I don’t find it useful for dream yoga.
There are some Tibetan sleeping medicines that Norbu Rinpoche talks about. Can I find the reference? Ba ba dum ba.
The names of them should be in here. I’m pretty suspicious of Western sleeping pills. Okay, if anyone has read Norbu Rinpoche’s book, it should be in there on Dream Yoga. And I’m not finding it, but if you can get a hold of a Tibetan doctor. They have some pills which will drop the lung, but not constrict the channels two kinds. Something 35, with 35 ingredients, and if it has Valerian in, it has something to counter it. And there’s another precious something that does this. You can use those better. To get them, order them as Tibetan sleeping pills for rising lung with difficulty to sleep, from your local Tibetan doctor. There’s a whole Tibetan Medical College out in the East Coast of the United States, and there may be one in Europe, where these are purchasable online. You can look for that and look it up.
Chamomile seems to have no bad effect. The Tibetan recommendation is to eat a carby noodle soup right before bed. This will generally deepen your sleep and soften or lower your lung. Also, a colder room with more blankets will generally lead to a deeper sleep. So if your problem is you don’t sleep deeply enough, start looking at some of these things.
The other thing is to have a great deal of physical exercise early in the day; go dig a ditch, work in the garden, go for a run early in the day. And then perform mental exercise such as a crossword puzzle or Suduko also before 3pm. These will also help to deepen your sleep if difficulty sleeping is your problem.
There are ways to work with light sleep and Dream Yoga. But they’re not that useful until you’re somewhat experienced with dream yoga. For the beginning experiences, it is better to do something to deepen your sleep. If you’re having trouble falling asleep, because the minute you start practicing dream yoga, you get excited by it. This sure helps you go to sleep. Doesn’t it? Have a sense of, “Now I’m going to go do something exciting”, so it raises your lung. So try some of these methods. If you have personal questions coming through, you can put them in chat and I will start answering questions in a minute.
Sleeping Too Deeply
Now for those of you who sleep too deeply and you want to balance this, you need to sleep lightly enough that you can maintain awareness or come to awareness enough to remember your dreams. If you don’t remember your dreams (which is really common for non-Dream Yoga practitioners), I will talk about some methods for doing that. But to begin with, you need to lighten your sleep to the point that you can wake up from the dream-time remembering your dreams or skim it.
For instance, if you wake up on towards morning (which is usually prime dream-time , as naps can be, the after-lunch nap, which is traditional during summer retreats), you can skim dream-time, where you’re like skimming a stone on a smooth pond; you’re dipping in, retaining consciousness, going in dream-time for a while, coming back out, dipping in. You’re sort of bouncing in and out of it. This is easy to do from – usually for most people who have a decent day/night rhythm and no flatline cortisol (which means that they’ve lost their rhythm) which can be caused by excess jetlag. I had it for a while. But for most people with a decent day/night rhythm, that’s going to occur around the time of first birdsong, which is long before false dawn and lasts through false dawn and often until sunrise.
If your rhythm is messed up, it could come later or earlier. There are methods of resetting your rhythm, there are herbal medicines (consult with your herbologists) that will help to do this. It’s considered a kidney deficiency or an adrenal gland deficiency. It’s adrenal deficiency rather than adrenal failure. And there are herbs that help with it if that is your problem. But by simply not using electric light anymore, you can totally rebalance it.
This is one of the things I do every year in my cave. Although, I do now have electricity there. I don’t use it. I liked it, a lamp with a flame, a little kerosene lamp or I use a candle once the sun is down. This is extremely helpful for balancing your day and night rhythms so that you can find your timings more easily.
If your sleep is too deep, having a light source behind the headboard of your bed. So what you do is, you mount a little shelf above the headboard of your bed, so that you don’t actually – as you’re lying in bed – see the flame. But you put – because, if you’re a restless sleeper or God knows there’s an earthquake, you don’t want a live candle up there unless you live in a cave, in which case it’s fine. They don’t burn down. So yes, I use a live candle or a live butter lamp when I’m in my cave. But I’m in a wooden house right now. So I use an electric votive.
There are certain things you can’t do with an electric votive, certain practices, but this is not one of them. This is a practice you can use an electric votive, especially a battery operated one. I don’t like the effect of wall current on an electric votive. The plugin candles because of the 60 cycle a second alternate alternation which we know interferes with certain practices. I haven’t tried one for dream yoga simply because of that. I use a battery powered, little votive from the dollar store. I think they’re two for a buck, cheapo. And so you get a little shelf and you put a little Buddha image or image or stupa image or you can put the little text, stupa and Buddha image the three, but you make a little shrine very small with a little shelf. You can often find these little wall mount shelves in secondhand shops, or even get them from Home Depot, or wherever you get home depot, floor craft wherever you get your little stuff like this online. And you put an electric votive candle there so it’s not shining in your eyes, but it’s increasing the ambient light in the room. And the ambient light is coming from beyond the top of your head which has symbolic meaning in Tibetan. So that will lighten your sleep.
A warmer room with less blankets – burrito-ing up in a bunch of blankets will often deepen your sleep if you’re not having hot flashes due to it, which is why I said a cooler room. Moving air, windows open, will often lighten your sleep. Because you’re going to hear, you know, the wind in the trees and stuff. It’s all going to be subliminal. But it can lighten your sleep.
Certain positions can be used. For standard male channel pattern, lying on your right side. In some lineages, women lie on their left side and close off the left nostril. However often the lower nostril when you sleep on your side closes itself off and you breathe through the upper one. Usually, one nostril is stuffier than the other for most people. This one is stuffier and it’s usually the bottom one when you’re sleeping. So, that position is helpful for many people.
But if you’re still too deep: more pillows. Get a wedge. Sleep on your back. It’s a lighter sleeping position than on your side. Even on your stomach, for stomach sleepers, it’s usually a deeper sleeping position. So these are ways of adjusting your level of sleep. Optimal for a Dream Yoga is to fall asleep with some ease.
I tend to use melatonin these days. I have not found any negative effects on Dream Yoga from it. When my sleep is capped, which happens periodically, sitting up in a gom-tree is optimal. But that’s a whole nother bit of learning experience and it’s optimal for clarity, dreams of clarity. Let’s see if we’ve got questions yet on levels of sleep.
Nyondo: Not for sleep levels. A number of people commented on the Tibetan Medicine. There’s two, one is B-mala and the other is Agar 35.
LL: Yes, B-mala and the other is Agar 35. Yes, and one Agar 35 is more warming, B mala more cooling. Mm hmm. So if you got hot flashes use B-mala. Thank you folks, because I’m old and I don’t always remember nouns for giving that information.
So Agar 35 if you tend to run cold and B mala if you tend to run hot, and these are accessible. So, if you’re not able to go to sleep with ease and especially if you are dependent on Western medications for help, I highly recommend trying these according to Norbu Rinpoche, they have no interference with Dream Yoga. And I’ll trust him highly, highly on this because he’s an expert at it.
Dream Yoga Texts
We talk about texts for a moment before I go on to types of dreams.
Depending on how you like your text, how meaty, Norbu Rinpoche’s Dream Yoga and the Practice of Natural Light, Dream Yoga Light. This is basically pith instructions without all – with many of, but not all – of the other stuff that might be useful to some people but isn’t really useful to most people. That is enough of a text for you to master dream yoga from a text and with a few instructions on the side, because it’s never all in the book. For, I’d say 70% of the people trying. Where it is lacking. He wrote this, I believe, long ago back when he was still in Italy. So, his cultural issue, his cultural matrix in which he was speaking was Tibetan-Italian.
If you are neither Tibetan nor Italian and you want things in a more Western mindset, Alan Watts has a nice book out. Alan Watts has, Alan Wallace, I’m sorry, B. Alan Wallace. Western context. Not specifically Tibetan lineage, but useful nonetheless if you want your stuff in western, Alan Wallace is a scholarly nerd and practitioner. [Dreaming Yourself Awake – B. Alan Wallace]
But if you want the real text, the deep text, the text with all the stuff in it, go for Bon. There’s a beautiful text out by Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche, the Tibetan Yogas of Dream and Sleep all the bits are in there. Highly recommended if you want it, although he’s westernized, has lived in the West. Again he wrote this some time ago. It is still within Tibetan cultural structure which means I prefer it. Because I’d like to make my transferences myself, rather than count on another translator or interpreter or scholar to do them for me. That’s personality.
If you are generally following my teachings, you like them explained a little bit in western context and might really enjoy Alan Wallace’s. Norbu Rinpoche’s is very traditional, but just the pith please, not all the other possible ways you could do in case of this or that. So these are your choices. You still need a teacher for Dream Yoga. You need teachings because it’s never quite all in the books.
My first teacher of Dream Yoga, my first teachings on Dream Yoga were at the age of three. I wish I knew what lineage it was my father practiced. Some form of Voodoo, Yoruba, Southern Baptist, Satanism, maybe. Without, I’m not sure he died when I was eight, before I realized the importance of lineage to ask the questions. I suspect he practiced a mishmash of things. He was an atheist, towards the Christian God. Did not believe in it. Not just didn’t worship it – didn’t even think it existed. And a communist and a sorcerer. Or at least he seems to have told his small child that he was a sorcerer and taught magic to her.
The memories of 3-4-5-6-7-year-old are all I have of his teachings, but that was my first teachings on Dream Yoga.
And I have been doing it off and on when not distracted by other things in my life, pretty much since. I have also studied it in the Lakota lineage, the druid lineage, the Wiccan lineage. I think those guys were Wiccan. I would say in those lineages. If I start talking about something that is not Tibetan, I will tell you “this piece of information is not Tibetan.” It comes from here or it comes from there.
How Dreams Happen
So, I want to talk about how dreams happen.
There are different kinds of dreams that you will encounter. Dreams created by karmic traces and dreams created from and out of clarity from entering dream-time in a state of meditation. If any of you were in yesterday’s retreat on the Inner Body Rushen. That set of practices synergizes really nicely with Dream Yoga. So I hope some of you from that retreat have decided to join us today because those two go great together.
As you work on unraveling the cricks in your chakras, which is what the, this is looking up a word, Kunzhi Namshe (kun-gzhi rnam-shes). I knew I knew that word. Alaya vijnana – storehouse of karmic formations. This is what they’re made, that it’s made of. It’s not a place. It’s actually, your karmic patterns are stored in your energy body as cricks, matted bits, entanglements, cramps. Your energy body is in reality your rainbow body, but you are unable to perceive that due to the stuff stuck in your kunzhi-namzhi.
Entering rainbow body is simply clearing the Kunzhi Namshe (kun-gzhi rnam-shes) sufficiently, all the way, so that there is no Kunzhi Namshe and you can perceive rainbow body directly. Or rather, no, you can perceive the five colored lights of the rainbows which make up the essence of the dance of perception arising out of fundamental vitality and are no longer consumed by squeakies as energy flows through crooked bits.
So, the type of dream that almost everybody has most of the time is occurring as your consciousness descends from daily life into the Kunzhi Namshe and starts experiencing these karmic formations as patterns and as experiences. You use up karma in the dream-time but you also create karma in the dream-time. You perform actions, you do things, and so create patterns – habit patterns.
So a really sweet way that they say this in here: “During the day, consciousness illuminates the senses and we experience the world, weaving sensory and psychic experiences into the meaningful whole of our life.” This is your normal day-to-day experience. At night, consciousness withdraws from the senses and resides in the base which is the cringy analogy. The consciousness instead of illuminating the senses, illuminates the) obscurations karmic traces, glitches and gunks. And these manifest as your dream.
These karmic whistles, these squeakies in the channel as the lung rides through them and your perception is based on this, create a set of dream sensations. And of course, you construct a narrative from those and that itself is the dream.
During the day as your consciousness rises to engage with your sense organs, you’re still engaged in the same dream making process. You project the interactivity of mind into the world and think that your experiences are real. So there isn’t that much difference between day and night.
So once you have balanced your sleep, using the different available methods, the next thing that you need to do is start paying attention. Your attention is mobile. When I introduce you to tawa by pointing out the totality of your own nature, the totality of mind. When I introduce you in that way, what I do is, I ask you to shift your attention from the dweebles and blinks of phenomena, which is always moving, changing and very interesting and distracting (like my cup of coffee). To shift your attention from all that stuff (outer phenomena and inner phenomena as well), because you’re paying attention to what you’re thinking and how you’re feeling and what you’re doing about that. Trying to fix it, feel better, think more Dharma thoughts, think a happy thought, Don’t be grouchy. I mean, you’re always up to something trying to fix the external and focus in on it.
So in the teachings of meditation, you simply, by unfocusing your eyes since your attention follows your eyeballs, and if you look at something you will pay attention to it. You just do. I mean look around you, look at different things. You’ll notice that your attention goes to the thing you’re looking at. So attention follows the eyeballs to a great extent. So you unfocus your eyeballs so they’re not looking at anything. You open your attention from the normal point focus of day-to-day life into a, not-blurry open awareness which is not point-focused.
What you are doing as you move in the beginning, from normal day today putzing about, to sitting on your cushion and meditating is shifting your attention from phenomena to nature of mind. Since nature of mind is not in a place, it cannot be perceived by point focus, which is all about looking here and there. So you have to let go of that. So, since most of you have been meditating a while, you know all about how to shift your attention. Well you gotta shift your attention to notice in your dreams.
Methods for Remembering Dreams
The standard Tibetan method which generally works only for those whose sleep is deep enough that they don’t notice the dreams (don’t try this if you’ve got insomnia!) this method is simply to visualize a white AH. Although some teachings have that white AH be in the heart chakra, or sometimes there’s a red AH in the throat chakra.
There are different things, the most basic as I was taught, it is that the white AH is not in a place. You do not focus your attention on the white AH with point, focus or rather you start that way. You can point your focus at the white AH, but then, you release point focus while maintaining attention on the AH, which is in mind, made of the light of mind. Being in mind, it’s not in a particular place inside you or outside of you, as neither is your mind. AH is the primal letter, the primal sound of voice, the speech chakras that have intent.
Letters, words are the basis of monlam, wish path, setting of intent, this is how the all works. But the basic and most simple teaching that I have had is you don’t put it in a place. However there are teachings that you do put it in a place, and I will go into more depth on those later. I believe Norbu Rinpoche puts it in the heart chakra or sometimes puts a red one in the speech chakra. However, I think that it works a bit faster if you don’t first stick it in a place. You see it in your mind, which isn’t in a place, for a true mind.
The totality, the Buddha nature is neither here nor there, neither now nor then. For, here and there and now and then are little ideas that crop up in mind and dissolve in mind. And sometimes they’re there and sometimes they’re not. And mind is always there. So, I’m going to give you a variety of methods as well, of drawing your attention to dream-time, so that you can wake up in your dream.
The first is you’ve got to remember your dreams. But, Tibetan method is to arrange that something awakens you during REM time. As can be your partner, your friend or for scholars, some Tibetans do take notes or write it down. You want a book that means something to you. It was given to me by a Russian student and it’s very beautiful leather bound notebook, embossed and a pen. That means something to you. The beads on this lovely pen were done by one of my students. It takes a long time. With Sanskrit words: Anata, Luca, and the date.
So with a pen that you use for that purpose only and a notebook that you use for that purpose only. I think a little bit of Wiccan crept in there. Sorry about that. Tibetans usually tell their cave mate their dreams. They use people. Rarely do Tibetans live alone. Even in retreat, you often have someone in retreat with you who is preparing your food and you take turns, or you’re both in retreat, take turns, prepare. Most Tibetans tend to make solitary retreats when working on specific solitary practices, but be quite comfortable making retreats with a friend. And they mostly form pairs and triplets and quadruplets of friend, team persons who live together and support each other called ropa. Even Tibetan marriages are usually more than just two people; two people isn’t enough to maintain a herd and raise kids. I don’t know how you Americans do it and Westerners do it with just marrying two people. Ever since my third died, we have been somewhat short on people to get everything done around here. So just a two person marriage almost as bad as being a single mother. Just not enough hands. You end up exhausted. Anyway, degression.
So, the Tibetan method of this, the pure Tibetan method is you tell your ropa. You develop a habit of having, or your ropa wakes you when your eyelids are moving. You ever watch your dogs sleep? Their eyes go back and forth and then will pause, twitch. You do that too in a dream. So your ropa wakes you up when that’s happening and in that moment you tell them out loud (with speech), your dream. This is the pure Tibetan method of learning to remember your dreams. Very few. A lot of Tibetans do dream yoga who are not really, they don’t write easily. So the notebook and pen method is only for the scholars and the easy writers.
I think the pen that only does that and book that’s only for that, is Wiccan. And the Tibetan, you get a pen and then a book because you normally don’t have one and you reserve it for that because paper is hard to come by. More practical reasons rather than esoteric reasons for the Wiccan one, which is a matter of holding energy.
There are other methods. Western, from my childhood, you get a specific stuffed animal that you have very great closeness to and as soon as you wake up, either during the night or in the morning, you take them, you keep them by your bed. You cuddle them in your sleep and you tell them all your dreams out loud in words. That’s my first teaching on how to remember dreams. This is my possum. I raised the baby possum once; he’s involved in many stories. His name was Naropa. So I don’t know what lineage the stuffed animal was.
Wiccan: You get a pretty crystal that means something to you. You put it by your bed, you wake up, you say it out loud to the crystal. Crystals hold energy really well. So, as you speak to the crystal it helps you to imprint and remember your dreams. I have heard a Tibetan version of this.
A statue of your yidam, this is Tara. Talk to it. Make a friend of it. Some statues talk back. You may even find it talking to you and meeting you in your dreams. But you can if you do not have a ropa, you can tell a statue of your yidam dreams. You keep it by the bed. As soon as you wake up, you talk to it out loud. If you’re worried about waking the person next to you, you should be waking them and telling them.
Lakota: This is a talking stick. When you have meetings in Lakota lineage, to keep everybody from interrupting each other, you need one of these. It’s a decorated stick. How it’s decorated is entirely up to you. But it should make it look really different from other sticks.
So in meetings, the stick gets passed around and whoever has the stick gets to talk uninterrupted, get out what they wanted to say. It sounds like it’ll make the meeting longer and it kind of does at first. But once you’re used to it, you learn to become concise. So you get a talking stick. You tell the stick you can make yourself a talking stick very easily.
This is a hair stick carved with a toucan. I like toucans so I could easily create a dream stick out of this. That I used only for dreams by attaching a bright colored piece of cloth feathers or beads to it tying them on with string or attaching with glue. It has a good hand feel. You want it a little brighter than this. You can find it in the dark. If you can get glow in the dark beads, it’s great to attach them to your dream stick. Lakota method, you make a dream stick, it’s similar to a talking stick. So I would make one out of this, that I have lying around the house, used for keeping my top knot in place when I feel like wearing a toucan.
These are all different methods of remembering your dreams. Have we got questions on any of these methods coming up so far?
Questions
Nyondo: Yeah, we have a number of questions. First, did you already mention melatonin and whether it was…
LL: Melatonin is okay. It’s what I use when I can’t get to sleep and I’ve had no interference with doing Dream Yoga.
Nyondo: What is false dawn, you mentioned that much earlier?
LL: Oh, there is, long before the sun is ready to come up. But it’s usually what gets the birds going. First birdsong usually happens in the pitch dark and then there’s a slight bit of light and you think, okay, dawn is coming, but it doesn’t. It even seems to get a bit darker after that. I’m not sure what spheric phenomena that is. But it’s a change in energy, which does not lead to the sun coming up, and it’s called false dawn and it’s well before dawn.
If you were to not be partying all night, but be partying until about 3am, out doing things, not anymore, not these days. Up with a good book or movie until about 3am and then decide to stay up and see the dawn because it was solstice or astrologically conducive, you would then, if you were quiet, notice these different times. Other questions?
Nyondo: What about using a voice recorder to record?
LL: Ah yes, thank you for reminding me. There’s a couple of Western methods, modern tech, nothing to do with the old lineages. Record it on your cell phone. There’s even a dream yoga machine. I haven’t tried it. I haven’t been able to justify to myself the expenditure of four or 500 bucks for a machine when four or 500 bucks would keep a Tibetan in a nicely comfortable retreat for an entire year. So I haven’t been able to justify spending that much on a toy; but I’ve been curious about them. I’ve seen them advertised. They are a pair of glasses and they do what your ropa is supposed to do. If you don’t have a ropa or you don’t want to get your roommate into doing this with you, your partner, (they’ve got other things they’re busy with, they need their sleep). So it’s like a visor and it somehow notices when you go into REM sleep, your eyeball movement and it will slowly shine a brightening light on your eyes, to bring you to consciousness within the dream. Or to wake you just a little bit gently so you can remember the dream.
I believe it’s got a couple of different settings. If any of you have the disposable income to try one, go for it. You can get them online. I’ll look them up and by next session have the URL for that for you. It’s a couple of different companies that make them. I’ve never tried one; I don’t know if they work or not. They sound like a really nice technological idea. So if any of you geeks have the money for it, give it a try. If any of you geeks happen to be rolling in money, because you invented some programs, I wouldn’t mind trying one myself, I’ll tell you all if it’s worth investing in. But I have not, from the way my income works as simply a Dharma teacher, which is pretty full-time for me, and I’m not holding a secondary job on top of it. I got out of the habit when there was so much travel involved, that I couldn’t work as a doctor because it wasn’t fair to my patients to never be there. So I retired from that. So, I haven’t been able to justify the portion of the income I get from dana. That would be for a toy rather than something needed over in among the Tibetans and among students. But do let me know if you decide to try it and how it works. I’m really quite curious. So these are a couple of Western methods. I did want to mention the visor in case some of you nerdlies out there want to go experiment with it. I suppose a group of you could purchase it together and pass it back and forth and share it if you were in the same pod. COVID pod.
Other questions?
Nyondo: Do we need a lung or some kind of transmission to practice Dream Yoga?
LL: That’s what you’re getting right now. No you don’t so much need a lung as a tri. Dream Yoga is not text based. These texts were all written by living lamas. Well, Norbu Rinpoche’s no longer with us. But people we know – Alan Wallace is, Tenzin Wangyal is. So be because these were written in English, the traditional Tibetan lung method for ancient texts probably, in my opinion, doesn’t apply. Different cultural matrix. Word patterns are different. Tibetan phrases in traditional texts are fractals with the exception of one text, Words of My Precious Teacher, which is a fully opened text that you don’t seem to need a lung for, or a tri. It’s all, it’s wide open. Most texts are fractals. Each phrase contains a number of syllables and each syllable has 3,5,7 layers of meaning.
If you go to my Facebook page photos a few back, you will find a picture of a Tibetan text done as a quilt, which you read in all the different directions like a star. It’s beautiful, and each syllable in that text has meanings within meanings. So for most of these Tibetan texts, you need not only the lung, but you pretty much need somebody to open the text for you; to open, unfold the fractal, which is why we say you can’t get it just from the book. It’s a fractal folded up. It’s an origami.
Someone who understands has received from someone before them the unfolding, how to unfold this text, what it unfolds into, needs to unfold it for you. Whereas these texts were, as to the best of my knowledge written unfolded. Which is why I’m sitting here waving them at you and telling you go ahead and get whichever one seems like it will be most conducive for your personality. Start with one. If you start with too many at once, you’re just going to overwhelm yourself. So pick one totally traditional, but well written in English, accessible and doable Tibetan tradition. Well translated into a Western Tibetan tradition. Well translated into a Western cultural matrix. And I swear I saw some Wiccan in there.
Nyondo: Next question, some questions about dream experiences. Frequently within the dream, I feel lethargic and I can’t act within the dream although I recognize it. What does this numbness mean within the dream itself, how to overcome it?
LL: You have a karmic quirk, crick. I’d run a bunch of Vajrasattva, or do the inner speech rushen depending on where you are – sorry, inner mind, inner body rushen – depending on where you are in your practice and see if I can get that crick out to improve my Dream Yoga. Because that’s probably going to be getting itself here and there in your daily life as well. Senses of powerlessness or lethargic, inability to decide, or inability to move.
Nyondo: Yep. Okay. What is happening when you wake up, but the dream seems to continue?
LL: You still got one foot in the dream-time. I do that a lot. That’s really nice because then that’s how you do the skimming thing where you wake up and then you put your white AH, you notice your white AH, you go into trekchod and different levels if you’re capable of it. And you go back in trekchod or you can go back in and change something. Or you can go back in with where you want the dream to go, lucidly.
So, when that’s happening, that’s actually a useful time. When you’re able to straddle the sill and have one foot (speaking analogously), one foot in dream-time and one foot in wake time. Then you can slide back and forth. If you are tired enough and have an easy enough – but not too easy – time going to sleep if you’ve got your insomnia/sleepiness balance nicely. You can, as you enter dream-time usually, as you fall asleep in the beginning of the night, you skim through a really short dream-time on the way in and then go into theta wave. If you can enter that really short dream-time, consciously in trekchod, you can remain in trekchod through theta. You can even remain in yidam practice through Theta and then re-emerge in it into the dream-time, which is a very powerful but more advanced practice that I will go into more in future teachings on this.
I’m taking you slowly. The way I was taught, the way it is traditionally taught. You get the first bit, how to, what are dreams, how do they work? How to balance your sleepiness, wakefulness, different methods of doing that, recommendations of herbal products that work, of things that don’t work. You do this, get it balanced, and you work on remembering your dreams for a week or so. You get that working. You base the next teaching on top of that, which is why these aren’t three days in a row. I’m giving you time if you’re going to work with this. To delve further by your own experience to experience it in the process of the teaching. Next question.
Nyondo: I wake up in intense terror about death. Should I sit up, use Om AH Hung, do a deity or yidam practice? What should I do?
LL: You have again a karmic formation that is causing this experience to repeat until it resolves. Which is probably going to be when you die. Your best bet is to take refuge before you go to sleep. You can also call on Tara with her mantra, doing a Tara practice before sleep. And then, as you sleep, lay your head on her lap. I had a pillow given to me by another lama with a picture of Tara on it. Which I ended up giving to a friend who was very ill, who was very into Tara practice, so that she could sleep with her head in Tara’s lap. Try some of these. Eventually, we will get to the point if you continue with dream yoga practice, where you can face your death in the dream-time and walk through it and resolve the karma that is manifesting as this intense fear. But first we’re going to have to stop interrupting your sleep so you can remember dream, stop panicking you in sleep. So for that, refuge and sleeping with your head in Tara’s lap holding her hand. Next question.
Developing Lucidity
Nyondo: Let’s see. I remember my dreams mostly but have little clarity or lucidity in sleep. Even when absurd things happen, how can I develop more lucidity?
LL: So, for the developing of lucidity there are a couple of different methods.
Tibetan method, again, involves the White AH. Once you’re remembering your dreams, to wake up in your dreams is going to be the next point, to notice you are dreaming. One of the simplest methods for that which Tibetan, is to notice you are dreaming all day.
Now there is a… it’s not Lakota. It’s Yaqui? It’s one of the Native American minds that I’ve encountered in passing but it might be… Yeah, I think it’s Southern Yaqui (not the northern Lakota) which is to help you do that, to help you remember during the day that this, too, is a dream, is to get a ring that bugs you. Can you all see this big old ring? It’s a really nice ring but it’s big enough and I use my hands enough that wearing it bugs me. This can’t be your normal wedding ring or something you wear every day. You would put it either on this finger which has a channel, your ring finger of either hand which has a channel that runs to the heart. The heart channel runs through there. It’s why in certain practices you close your fist like this with your thumb pushing on the base of that finger.
So anyway, you put the ring either on this finger [ring finger] or on this finger [index finger], which relates to the speech chakra and intent. This is the finger of intent, your pointer finger. So this [ring finger] has more to do with feelings and emotional tone and this [index finger] has more to do with monlam, wish path, letters. So you have a choice which one you want to emphasize and you put a ring that’s clunky enough to buggy a bit. And all day every time you notice the damn thing on your hand while it bugs you, you notice that you are dreaming right now.
This works by a really simple method. Have you ever driven a really long distance all day and then dreamt you were still driving at night? Really common occurrence. So as you walk about the day emphasizing an awareness that you are dreaming, allowing a slightly annoying ring, or bracelet, or pair of glasses with dangly things – just something that is going to hit your attention a lot – to remind you to notice that you are dreaming. That, itself, will carry over into the dream-time this will not give you full clarity-level dreamings, it will be more likely to bring you lucid in karmic dreams. Remember, we talked about the two categories of dreams, karmic formations from this life or past lives? Truly that category divides into two categories being: karmic formations from this life and karmic formations from past lives. And they feel different – you can recognize which is which. Now, that comes later.
So, that’s a really simple method. The other method that will actually lead you into lucidity in clarity dreams (which are more difficult) is to sleep, go to sleep in trekchod. Or, with your attention open in mind, placing the white AH there in mind. There’s no “there” to that there where. So visualizing the white AH but not in a location in open awareness. As the nature of the intent of lucidity. These are two simple ways.
Next week, I’m going to go more in-depth for you in ways of causing lucidity bringing forth lucidity. This week is more about getting you into focusing your attention on dream-time. Although, since some of you already have your sleep balanced and have your remembering dreams, I will give you these two fairly direct and simple methods. It’s the noticing that you’re dreaming and it helps if you say it out loud, monlam. Notice that this is a dream, just like any other dream. Karmic patterns arising being interpreted as sensory experiences, as phenomena. No difference. I am dreaming. Pattern that enough during the day and the pattern will continue in the night. The white AH will lead to an automatic lucidity and clarity which is a higher state but more difficult for some. Other questions?
Nyondo: Here’s a practical one. Can you practice Dream Yoga if you use a CPAP machine
LL: I don’t see why not. I have never used a CPAP machine. I think the keys to practicing Dream Yoga – and there’s nothing, of course, in the ancient texts about Dream Yoga with a cpap machine – however, I’m somewhat familiar with them and I don’t see why not. In fact, especially if you’re working with the white AH and clarity dreams, having ease of breathing caused by a sleep CPAP or a BIPAP is actually quite important.
If your breathing is obscured or obstructed, it is very difficult to have dreams of clarity. Such as it’s very cold and you’ve curled up with your head under the blankets that will often disperse the clarity of clarity dreams because you’re not getting enough oxygen. I’m talking heavy blankets. So I would say it should not be a hindrance. You may have to modify your bedside table so that you can get at whatever you’re using to talk your dreams to.
When I should think it would be a problem, I think it would actually be helpful if you had sleep apnea because sleep apnea is a bugger for dream yoga. It really does interfere.
Next question.
Nyondo: Let me find it. A couple of people had questions where it seemed they were dreaming and their dream was connected with a second person’s dream or somebody else’s dream.
LL: What was the question about those? Yeah, it happens.
Nyondo: So, yeah. And also somebody had a question about, what about dreams that occurred the night after receiving an initiation?
LL: Two kinds. If you have a lot of karmic traces intensely in your alaya vijnana, you may dream symbolically about your karmic relationship to that wang. Conversely, if you are a relatively strong practitioner of trekchod and have been cleaning out your karmic patterns for some time, you may dream interaction with the archetype of that wang which is very powerful and is a clarity dream.
Trekchod purifies karmic stuff faster than any other method. It’s actually more effective than Vajrasattva. If you do it right, if you’re good at it. Thoughts that arise as a result of karmas, if neither grasped nor rejected nor followed, dissolve back into mind as mind, exhausts, uses up the karma that caused them without creating a new one. The moment you grasp a thought, follow a thought, like a thought, don’t like a thought, muck about with a thought, poke at a thought, entertain a thought. You are creating further karma and not clearing your karmic storehouse. The same with emotions when you feel an emotion, if you suppress the emotion, if you act on the emotion to feel better, if you code the emotion, if you entertain the emotion, if you justify the emotion, if you do anything at all with the emotion, you’re creating more karma. Whereas if you allow the emotion to arise in its pristine naked state as that and you don’t poke it, leave it be as it is. The karma causing that entire pattern is unraveling by the experience and you are not creating more because you are not doing anything about it.
When I teach “working with emotions”, I teach how to begin doing this. Where the emotion arises with its attendant story and then you go into the action of stripping the attendant story off and then getting its underwear (which is its name) off. So it’s a whole process, but at some point that ceases, with practice with enough practice of that, that ceases to be a process and becomes simply an occurrence and the emotion arises naked and dissolves when it’s done naked. And since you haven’t grasped it or dressed it or done anything with it whatsoever except allowing it to be as it is, no karma of deed is created to replace the karma that was exhausted by the experience. And so I think of it in Sanskrit – alaya vijnana – thins out through a lot of practice of trekchod while thinking and feeling. You can speed this up with togyal but your trekchod needs already to be able to do this before you try and speed up the process, otherwise you just get more stuff. Next question.
Nyondo: How to develop better boundaries so other practitioners cannot control your dream and come into it?
LL: It’s not a boundary, well, the Wiccans would call it a boundary issue, the Tibetans would call it a karmic issue. So Tibetan answer, trekchod. It is a particular quirk that you are experiencing. This particular quirk in your karmic patterns, a pag-cha. Trekchod is the fastest way to purify a pag-cha. However, if your trekchod isn’t all that good that you don’t think you can get it to do that, go with Vajrasattva. It’s your pagcha, you get to clean it out.
Now in the Wiccan tradition this would be seen as a boundary issue and setting a circle around your bed, there would be instructions for how to do that and how to make a proper circle around your bed and what would break a circle. But this is not a Wiccan teaching. This is Tibetan teaching. And if you actually want that, go find a Wiccan.
I will look and see if there is a shaman/Bon teaching on that. Looking through some of my texts where if there is it would be and let you know next week, but that’s what I’ve got for you right now.
Nyondo: For practice there’s a number of specific questions, people asking, can you tell your dreams to a pet, for example, or to a picture of your yidam?
LL: Yes. Yes to a picture of your yidam. Probably yes to your dog, but I doubt your cat will be interested.
Nyondo: Well, there might be one.
LL: It might be.
Nyondo: We had one that would might have.
LL: If your pet is willing. Your lizard? Easy. They hold still. Your ferret, might be a bit problematic. They don’t hold still.
Nyondo: Also, for the waking up, does it also work if you set the alarm on your phone to wake you up every few hours?
LL: Only if you don’t have to go to work the next day. And I wouldn’t have it wake me up every few hours. Let yourself get your theta done first. I would start it at maybe two or three in the morning and have it wake me just once there. Try that the first night. See, if that was my dream-time, I would try the second night if that had been my dream-time, I might see how long it had taken me to lose consciousness and lose my clarity, my lucidity, after that awakening. And I might set it for say an hour later or half an hour later. But don’t do this if you have to go to work the next day because it will interfere with you getting enough sleep and you’re going to need a nap. Don’t be driving a car when you’re over tired. I had a friend die of that after a 48 hour shift as a paramedic. Next.
Nyondo: Did you say that actions we perform in dream-time create karma? So we can’t say “oh, I’ll try this, it won’t affect others”.
LL: You can say “I’ll try this, it won’t affect others”. It is the emotions and the actions on emotions in dream-time that do create karma.
Nyondo: Why does chanting the Vajra Guru mantra or Mani mantra end nightmares?
LL: There are patterns, tracks, created via monlam in the universal shared unconscious, in the sambhogakaya. And due to those patterns which are mutually shared karmically, they’re in your alaya vijnana, as well as others. They’re a group karma, shared universal unconscious issue, and fairly local (as in homosapien). Because of that, they affect your karmic storehouse and can be used to block the manifestations of certain kinds of negative karma that lead to nightmares. Next.
Nyondo: If you’re dreaming and you have masters or spiritual teachers, or dakinis, in your dream, is that significant? Is there something that’s going on there?
LL: Extremely. Yes. Usually, those are dreams of clarity. Sometimes it’s hard to tell whether it is a dream of clarity or not. For example, in regular karmic dreams, you cannot read the same piece of paper or page of a book twice, it changes. In clarity dreams, from a certain state of open focus, not unfocused, but open-minded focus, you can. That’s how you get dream termas. But if it changes every time you look at it, it ain’t a dream terma. It’s a dream. Teachings are often given in dreams. The last session of these teachings will be given in the dream-time. Certain things can’t be taught about dream yoga here. They have to be shown. We’ve got several more sessions on the internet before we even go there. I think I answered that to the best of my ability. Dream-time, especially once you start entering clarity level, is a place as well as a state of mind. Just like this is a place as well as the state of mind. Next question.
Nyondo: A couple of questions about recurring dreams, about the significance of elements if they don’t change and what the significance is if they do change over time, the difference between those things?
LL: If they do change, it’s changing karmic patterns. And if they don’t change, it’s a repeating karmic pattern that probably needs your attention to deal with. Repeaters are asking for your attention, they’re karmic patterns attempting to manifest in some way or another, and not quite being able to complete themselves. Or your reaction to them each time somehow codes them so that they come again. There’s a wide variety for repeaters. Usually you’re coding it somewhere. It’s waiting for you to actually develop enough clarity in the dream-time to allow the full occurrence of that display to unravel without tightening it up again. And until you manage that, a repeater is likely to repeat for you.
Nyondo: An interesting question about learning in the dream-time. When you receive these teachings in the dream-time, is it still absorbed if you don’t remember it when you wake up?
LL: Yes, some teachings can not be remembered when awake because they don’t fit in a homosapien channel pattern which you will immediately put on when you wake up. So you won’t remember exactly, for instance, if you listen to the sonar poetry of whales and found Dzogchen inspiration in it. You may remember in words that this happened, but not what it felt like. Can’t bring that back here. Learning how to change species in dream-time, cannot be taught in the awake time, and yet has value. It’s Druid. Oh, yeah, go ahead.
Nyondo: What is the significance of dying but remaining aware, out-of-body, in the dream? The body is dead, but I am still aware.
LL: Probably a past-life memory. Happens on sudden death rather easily, especially with trauma. Also certain comas.
Nyondo: Can you comment a bit about the gom-tree and the gom-ter, the meditation belt in the meditation chair and how you use them for this, or is that a later teaching?
LL: Okay, the gom-tree is built to size for the individual that’s using it. The gom-ter is also made to size for the individual using it. This is fairly important. You don’t want one that’s too big or too small for you. And me, at five-foot-three or five-foot-four (I think five-foot-three now, I’m shrinking), would not be comfortable in the gom-tree or the gom-ter of someone six foot two; and, they wouldn’t be able to fit in mine, it wouldn’t work. So standing up, the gom-ter is twice as long as from the top of your top knot to the floor, not counting the fringe on the edge.
The gom-tree is square, made of wood, twice the distance from your fingertips to your elbow. The gom-ter, the meditation sash must be at least as wide as your palm. Otherwise it’ll cut into you. Usually it’s folded triple to give it some structure depending on the cloth you had made of. For ngakpas and ngakmos red silk is traditional; for monks and nuns yellow silk is traditional. In Bon, you would embroider a small blue swastika at one end. Doesn’t mean what it means in Europe.
I think you do a double dorje embroidered on a Nyingma one.
So both of these are so that you can relax your muscles while remaining upright. There are also airplanes and ice cream, amazing Westerners! All sorts of things that go around the small of your back and cup your knees and do different things to make you stay upright, meditation seats, chairs, different things available from yoga shops for Westerners, and many of them work great. In fact, I bought one for Ani Boonchu who was old, very old, a great meditator, but getting back aches from where she was sitting in puja without a backrest, due to age. I got her one of the Western ones. That was a backrest in the bottom that you sit on and worked great. And it was a portable so she could carry it to the gompa when she was going to be there in ceremony and not get a backache. So, go ahead and be creative.
The purpose of both of these is so that you can be sitting up in a proper meditative position without pain and without having to use your muscles to hold you up. So that if you fall asleep, you don’t fall over. Some go to the point of putting a hook at the top of their gom-tree which extends at least a finger above your top knot, and attaching their hair to it to keep their head from falling over. But personally, I find that uncomfortable and I like those airplane pillows better. Only us Westerners, my teachers said, could ever have come up with the wondrous phenomena of airplanes and ice cream. Next.
Nyondo: A couple of questions about going to sleep while in trekchod. If one goes into deep sleep whilst in trekchod does one consciously remember that after waking up in the morning?
LL: Not in the way you consciously remember occurrences. You remember it the way you remember trekchod when you’re not in it. You know it was there but your memory does not encompass the sensation unless you return into it.
The key to accomplishing trekchod is never to leave it. Easier said than done. Let’s have another question or two.
Nyondo: Okay, let me take a look here. There’s quite a few different ones. Can you… I don’t remember what you said about CBD oil. There was one question from somebody who…
LL: I have no idea how that affects the dream-time. I find for me, it affects it poorly. Makes it lots of fun and I remember the dreams but I don’t get any clarity. And that’s the whole point. The end goal of Dream Yoga is clarity. So I find that CBD, for me, interferes. But I have no textual reference to tell you how that works and that’s not the oil topically, I’m talking about either eating it or smoking it. I have not tried the oil topically at sleep time to see what that does. I don’t have a pain that that’s necessary for. So probably topically it would not affect much. I have slept with a lidocane patch once. Wasn’t on purpose. I think I was on an airplane. But there was some clarity that occurred. Not much but some. So I’m guessing topical is not that hindering. I think it doesn’t go that much in the system and is more just in the place. Next.
Nyondo: How are kinks worked out of the Kunzhi Namshe, (did I pronounce that right)?
LL: Yes, You did. By not poking it. Karmic kinks. There are practices that accelerate the removal of karmic kinks. Trekchod is the fastest with the exception of togyal. But you need trekchod to do togyal anyway. So what that is, how that’s done. I’ll tell you the best one first.
Arising, there arises an experience. The experience contains and interprets sensory stuff, this is in dream-time. So you dream you are taking a walk and you meet a black dog. You’re dreaming the sight of the black dog, the feeling of the, under your feet, the pavement you’re walking on, the wind against your skin, all of these sensations, the sound of wherever you are, are being stimulated by chi [lung] moving through cricks in the Kunzhi Namshe and so arising and being interpreted as perceptions, which is sensations made into a coherency.
So, you get… this is the karmic experience of a coherency. Now, there are parts of the coherency which is the story you tell yourself about why and where you were walking, and what you were doing, and the black dog, and what you think it will do. And then there’s the emotion – you are happy to see it, you’re afraid to see it. So, all of these things are arising. If you do not grasp, entertain, do something about the feeling, the perception, the thought sensation, if you let them be as they are in trekchod, none of them, none of those things have substance or duration.
You allow them to arise and disappear naturally without grasping or rejecting. In normal day-to-day life, everything arises with its attendant, all perceptions arise with attendant thoughts and feelings, if you notice them (of want, of not want). And that feeling arises together with you taking an action of deciding to act on it or not act on it. And both of those create karma. So, perception, “there’s still some coffee in here”. That was an interpretation of a sensory input of a gurgle that I heard when I shook this performed in action. So I’m already in a dream. So now I have to decide, will I drink the coffee or not, perhaps not just to show I can. That’s an action. Perhaps I’ll drink it because I want it.
That’s an action. To drink it or to not drink it are both actions creating karma, refraining from acting as an action. It’s called refraint.
So as long as you act, as long as there is a doing involved, it doesn’t unravel. It ravels. It is by the not doing of neither doing it nor refraining from doing it in trekchod that allows the unraveling of the display. If you don’t, are unable to accomplish this non-accomplishment reliably then you can use either Vajrasattva or the inner body rushen to unravel some of these.
Nyondo: We also have a couple of questions about sleep paralysis and paralysis in dreams. What causes sleep paralysis and what does it mean if you are paralyzed in a dream?
LL: It’s a karmic formation, depending on whether you are “you” as you know yourself in situations familiar to you – in which case it is a current attempting, currently manifesting, current-life-caused karmic formation (such as a story you heard as a child that left an imprint or something). Someone you knew who was paralyzed, a set of feelings, you had emotions, which you either suppressed or did something about. When you saw someone in a wheelchair who was paralyzed or in an iron lung or read about them, this life. Or if the circumstances are not familiar to you or the person you are, is not familiar to you, different gender, different culture, different person altogether, different personality, it’s more likely a past life karma trying to manifest. It’s a particular karmic formation. And sleep paralysis, the paralysis that comes when you wake up and can’t move has to do with a release of a certain hormone which is caused by certain karmic formations. These are all karmic type dreams.
Nyondo: Can you use shamanic drumming techniques to achieve lucid dream-time?
LL: Yes, that’s Lakota system, is where I’m familiar with those, and yes you can. Don’t talk to anything with teeth.
Nyondo: Next, if I get teachings from you in the dream-time, does that mean you are my teacher?
LL: It does not mean I am your root teacher. It means, if you get those teachings, like them and take them to heart and practice them, it means I am one of your teachers. You get to have lots. I’m not monogamous.
Nyondo: Next, a couple of questions about the Akashic records and accessing those in the dream.
LL: That’s Wiccan and it’s a bugger, and there’s lots of traps around it. Get good at it before you give a try at that. There’s things with teeth. There’s other stuff. There’s Wiccan’s method of doing it. The Catholics have a thing about it and stuck some demons there. So it’s a little complex to work with, you can.
I like the Tibetan one better where all the termas are. I think it’s got a better file system. Even if you can get into the Akashic records, the filing system is so multi-dimensional. It’s really hard to find anything. Whereas where the Tibetans keep the termas, nice filing system. You can find stuff and much prefer it; but that’s me. Personal opinion. You, that’s an advanced practice to try to go there and I’m not teaching it right now because there’s so many cautions and safeties, and anyway, it’s not Tibetan, it’s Wiccan. Next.
Nyondo: If you’re a night owl, do you adjust the timing of these practices to your own rhythms?
LL: Yes. You either adjust your rhythms to standard or adjust the timing of the practices to the rhythms that you’ve chosen to keep. Your choice.
Nyondo: If I’m a light sleeper, do I use the candle above my head?
LL: No, make the room darker. Make it cooler and add blankets. You can even try a white noise machine if you feel that that helps. If you are a light sleeper, you see, you want your sleep to be at an exactly right balance which is on the light side, but not so tipped into lightness that you end up not being able to get into the dream-time easily. So if you’ve got absolute midline here, and this is those deep sleepers that the house can burn down and they won’t notice, and this is those total insomniacs that can’t get to sleep unless they take something, you want to be right about here. Just off midline towards the light side. And you want to adjust your environment, your sleeping position, your mattress, whatever you need to. So that that’s where you are.
Nyondo: You mentioned the things with teeth earlier. Someone asked, should you always try to take refuge when you meet a deity archetype? Just In case they aren’t who they appear to be?
LL: Yes, there are things that aren’t what they appear to be. I have almost gotten snookered by one of those about… it was only a couple of years ago. Taking refuge, saying the Guru Rinpoche mantra is usually effective to find out. Now admittedly, I talk to things with teeth because I find them interesting. The only problem is sometimes they follow you home. I’ve gotten in trouble with my family for that before. Oh Druid one: don’t put things in your pockets. Especially if you don’t know what they are.
Nyondo: Next, is it safe to practice dream yoga in a place that is not my normal bed? For instance, in a hotel while traveling?
LL: Safe, yes. Likely, no. I have done a lot of traveling as a teacher and found that it’s just not the time for any decent Dream Yoga. Partly that is, my diurnal rhythms were always totally cracked because I lived in jetlag and partly because I just never had any success at it in the middle of that. So it’s safe but more difficult, let me put it that way. I found out I either disturbed my sleep and ended up over-tired or just not come to lucidity while traveling.
Nyondo: I have difficulty with keeping my body asleep with my mind awake. Could you offer any advice?
LL: You don’t want your mind awake. You want to drop down into the Kunzhi Namshe. You want to release the sense organs. You want your mind asleep. You want it aware that it is dreaming while in the dream, asleep. Next.
Nyondo: A question, does Dream Yoga mantra of Bon help? I’m not quite sure what that is.
LL: Yes. Okay. It’s a more complex method. I’ll get to it, but I’m not teaching that this week; but if you’ve got it go ahead.
Nyondo: Can you simply ask your guru for awake dreaming?
LL: Give it a try. A number of… it might work for some people. If your faith is strong enough, it’ll work.
Nyondo: Next, a number of specific questions that might work or might not. There’s a question about dream herbs, African dream root, African dream seed.
LL: I am less familiar with these. But supposedly there are many incenses which will potentiate lucid dreaming. Salvatore, there is a sage, Salvatore divinitorum which is excellent, which I keep meaning to grow in the garden and have not gotten around to getting a plant. I haven’t played with all of these.
But it is said and known outside of the Tibetan system. I don’t know of anything that grew up on the plateau there. But in other systems there are many things very helpful for this; including a few that shift your awake time into dream-time and end up straddling, but I’m not going to recommend those to you at all. They’re dicey to work with, toxic.
Nyondo: There was a question and I also have this question too, if you’re trying to go to sleep by listening to recordings of voices, there’s quiet stories, or people talking about nothing in particular that some folks find soothing enough to send them to sleep. And how effective is that?
LL: Not for dream yoga. It’s effective in getting to sleep, but I don’t… I think it’s not going to be very effective if you want to be practicing Dream Yoga. Like, I know when I watch a video because I’m having trouble sleeping, one of those Frisian videos, either a soft sound, sometimes it’s visual for me doesn’t work, interferes with Dream Yoga. So that’s my experience. Mine isn’t voices, it’s images that I use for Frisian.
Nyondo: My dreams are often dimly lit which I find threatening and light switches won’t work. Is there a meaning behind this?
LL: Karmic formation probably again. Could be something ate you in the dark in a past life, with lots of nocturnal hunters. Hard to say what causes it, but it’s a particular karmic formation. Repeating dreams are karmic formations, strong ones.
Nyondo: Can you talk a bit more about trekchod how it’s spelled and what it is?
LL: Trekchod is a Tibetan word which means cutting through. It cuts through the karmic formations the pag-chas, the crap that holds you into being a sentient being. It’s a specific method of Dzogchen meditation. Next.
Nyondo: Dreams where you’re being attacked by demons.
LL: So another karmic formation. And I think is this all different types of dreams that’s left? Yes, either that or solutions where you’re going to sleep.
Conclusion
I’ve pretty much given all the solutions I know for going to sleep. Try different combinations of them, not all of them all at once; you’re not trying to injure yourself with a sledgehammer. Which would probably put you to sleep, or at least unconsciousness but not recommended. But try different combinations of them. See if you can get a hold of the Tibetan Medicine. Try some melatonin which I’ve never found it’d be interfering. See what works for you on getting to sleep.
And as many people are asking about different types of dreams, let’s see if I can find…
“the karmic traces are the roots of dreams. They can be entirely exhausted at which point only the pure light of awareness remains. No movie, no story and no dream.”
Your awareness is the light of the projector. It shines through the analogy of the film, which is your karmic traces, creating images and stories, which is the movie. So all the different kinds of dreams that you have are generally about what your karmic traces are.
Lucid dreaming within karmic traces is useful to unravel certain karmas that are stuck, that you’re stuck on your sticking points. Dreams in clarity unravel all karmic formations over time. Certain practices, which, if done in the dream-time are incredibly effective. I’ve heard it said up to nine times more effective than doing them while awake. So I’ll leave you with that idea, some of what this is for what you can get from it. You can also go find the giant orgy that half the Wiccans get pulled off to. Fun but gets boring after a while.
I think we’re complete for today. Let’s let those who are just starting catch up with those who are doing it for a while, to the point of remembering dreams and adjusting your awakeness/sleepiness to a nice level you can work with. Let’s all get there and the next teaching we’re going to look at a lot of techniques for lucidity.
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Dream Yoga - Part 2
In the second part of this series, Lama Lena teaches daytime practices that help dream lucidity and recall. She also gives evening practices, like the Ninefold Breath and visualizations and she answers questions regarding the practices.
Make sure you have watched the first teaching before checking this one out, as each builds on the other.
This teaching was live streamed from Lama Lena’s home on August 22nd, 2020.
(See below for full transcript of this teaching)
Lama Lena: Good morning. This morning is the continuation of the previous dream yoga teaching. Dream Yoga is, at least in my tradition, given in pieces. Otherwise it’s all a little overwhelming. If you follow the instructions as they’re given, practice them in the gaps between this and the next teaching, the next teaching will make a lot more sense. So if you have now already spent a couple of weeks focusing your attention on the dream time, working on perfecting your sleep cycle; on how to find that level of sleep which is not so deep with unconsciousness that you don’t remember the dreams, but not so shallow that you bounce off the dream time like a pebble skimming on water. You want to sink below the surface, but maintain awareness. So that’s what we’ve been working on, not lucidity, but how to sleep.
Review of Working with Sleep
Some of you have started out with your sleep too shallow, cases of insomnia, difficulty going to sleep. And you’ve been working on that for a couple of weeks, so that you go to sleep more easily. Just standard Western sleep hygiene. Trying different things before bed; the Tibetans recommending a bowl of noodle soup. A light vegetable noodle soup which settles the Chi lower, gets it out of your head, down into your gut – because you’re digesting something, it’s carb-y so it’s relaxing, and will help you to deepen your sleep.
If your sleep is too deep, you’ve been working on things to lighten it, such as body position while sleeping. And we talked, I believe, last week about the different body positions for sleeping and the different amount of light in the room you can do. Adding a butter lamp above the head of your bed with an altar if you can, if you can put up a shelf that holds an image, a book and Chorten. All of these things, including having either a talking stick, a teddy bear, a tape recorder, or a notebook and pencil beside the bed, so that you can record the dreams and become accustomed to remembering them. So hopefully you are at the stage now where you are able to go to sleep at a reasonable time of night. Reasonable for you. Not everyone is the same – some people are naturally nocturnal at certain times in their life. But that you are able to go to sleep, that you are able to remain asleep, and to dream and remember your dreams. So today’s teaching is based on already having those skills. If you’re still having trouble with those skills, enjoy today’s teaching, but get those skills pretty well. Before you go into deeper practices, keep working on those skills, especially review them from the recording of two weeks ago’s teaching. If questions arise when they arise, type them into chat. I have Nyondo here to help me, who will read me questions from time to time.
(Lineage Prayer)
To note, I will be teaching Dream Yoga in the context of Dzogchen. This is because everything is the context of Dzogchen. Dzogchen is your own true nature, what you really are. So in that context we practice Dream Yoga. Many of the texts on Dream Yoga are more in the context of Mahamudra which is more linear than Dzogchen, for those who like a linear approach. Goes to the same place. So, some of the instructions involve Shine rather than Trekcho; doesn’t matter. The maturation of Shine is Trekcho, Laktong, Rochik.
Daytime practices
In Dream Yoga, the practices are divided into three parts. The practices done during the day, the practices done at bedtime, and the practices done in the dream state. All of them are equally important but there is an order. So I’m going to explain the practices done during the day. If you do not do the practices during the day, you are likely to be unable to do the practices before sleep well. If you do not do the practices during the day and the practices before sleep in the evening, you are unlikely to be able to do the practices during sleep at all. So, everything is dependent on the daytime practices.
There are four. One works with your karmic patterns and changes it. Your very personality itself is a karmic pattern. Your habitual way of perceiving the world is a karmic pattern. Your usual emotional tone – anxiety, a bad temper, desirous – all of these are karmic patterns. You need to shift them into the karmic patterns of a dreamer. Fortunately, this is not that difficult. It is simply the first part. And this is absolutely necessary throughout the day, all the time, and this is not necessarily instead of Gom. If you’re practicing Gom, Trekcho, at all times and on all occasions recognizing the already known Dharmakaya nature of mind, then you simply add a little bit to it.
Recognize that you are dreaming, that you recognize the already known Dharmakaya nature of mind. If you are not already doing that, then simply all the time during the day recognize the dreamlike nature of all occurrences, until that becomes automatic, just as Trekcho and Sopa in Dzogchen become automatic from repeated practice. So you go about and you do your daily activities, whatever they are – simple or complex, in the recognition that it is a dream. This allows that same recognition of “I am dreaming” to manifest during the night in the dream time, because you are creating the karmic pattern to see things that way.
Creation of Karmic Patterns
If you have a karmic pattern of anxiety, which is a karmic pattern of seeing things as dangerous, that karmic pattern was created over time, by repeatedly telling yourself about all the possible dangers that could get you, which may have arisen because many sensory experiences occurred, which felt dangerous at the time. And so you experienced them as danger, and were anxious about them. And so – I’m going to go into Western anatomy for a minute – and so the little gates that send forth the different neurochemicals, the one that sends forth the neurochemicals of anxiety got stuck open. In Tibetan anatomy, it would be that that anxiety became itself a channel pattern. So that even non-dangerous situations, or mildly dangerous situations, danger of becoming annoying, were interpreted as more dangerous than they were, and so created more of that brain chemical gate open, more intense of that chakra pattern. And that’s how you got into the state of anxiety you’re in.
You may apply this to bad temperedness, good temperedness. I know one or two people who have gone through great stages of their life in which many negative and positive things have happened to them, have been depressed. I know a few people who have been whatever it is, chronically un-depressed, chronically happy. All the shit that happens to them, somehow or other they see the pony in the pile of shit. Do you know the story I’m referring to? The optimistic kid whose parents didn’t like him. So they gave them a pile of horse shit for a birthday present. And they find the kid out in the barn shovelling the pile of shit with great happiness, and on inquiry why he’s so happy, he simply said, “with this much shit there’s got to be a pony in here somewhere!” I know of a couple of people who have that stuck, just the way other people get depression or anxiety stuck. Of course we only complain about the ones we don’t like. They had no complaints about being chronically happy. In both their cases, it eventually wore off because not realizing it being a karmic pattern that, like all karmic patterns would require maintenance, they became – what’s my word here? – took it for granted, rather than working to maintain it nicely. And so it wore off. People with anxiety work very hard to maintain it nicely. Finding all the many things to be way too anxious about, which maintains it. This is an explanation of how a way of seeing is created as a karmic pattern. What you’re doing here is creating the karmic pattern of knowing you’re dreaming, of being aware in the dream, because this also is a dream.
You’re Making up Your Experience
All of this, all your experience, you’re making it up. You have sensory input experiences, colors and shapes seen with the eyes. Sounds heard with the ears, but it’s your mind who interprets those sounds as language, according to past conditioning, which has led to the phenomena of knowing a language. It is your eyes that interpret the things you see as the objects which are known to you, according to your past karmic traces of what is possible. I was once invisible to a man, a Lama, for whom I was not possible – he couldn’t see me. At the end of Rinpoche’s teaching, he complimented Rinpoche greatly on his knowledge of English and his ability to use English words. I was translating simultaneously, was right in front of him. His eyes skittered off me every time because I was not possible. He was raised in a monastery and had spent his whole life in a monastery, and he had never seen a woman who behaved as a human being. A woman, Ngakmo, educated as a translator, and able to do something other than prepare food and clean, was not possible for him, which made me invisible to him. You know the story that when Columbus and the Conquistadors landed in South America, their ships were not visible to the natives. Because canoes didn’t get that big. It wasn’t possible so their eyes skittered right over it and they saw the men walking out of the water – because men were possible and men go in water, but not the ships that had brought them.
Everything you see is your dream interpretation of your sensory input. Everything you hear is your dream interpretation of the itches in your eardrum caused by the vibrations of the air. Everything you smell, taste, touch, rell. All of your sensory experiences arise as perceptions when they’re combined with stories. And they always are. They arise as what you think they are. You’re dreaming! Admit it, recognize it, and feel it, because it’s not enough in the practice to simply go around thinking “I’m dreaming, I’m dreaming, I’m dreaming”. Feel it, perceive it, as well as think it. All three levels. For some people, the wearing of a ring, which they will notice from time to time, will remind them, help them remember, when they’ve forgotten all about the fact that they’re doing this practice, and need to re-enter it. This usually only happens for the first few days. Sometimes it happens even after you’ve been doing it for a long time. Something extreme will seem to you to have occurred in your life, and you will feel too busy, too overwhelmed to pay attention to practice. This is your tricky little resistance throwing up stuff in the dream, to get you to forget that you’re dreaming. Don’t fall for it. Keep going. What you need to do is to create a tendency here, a karmic pattern, a way your tsa hangs. Which sees your thoughts, feelings and perceptions – phenomena, inner and outer – as insubstantial, something arising in the dream. It’s not enough just to see yourself dreaming. You are a dream.
Once there was a Zen master who dreamed he was a butterfly. When he awoke, he did not know whether he was a Zen master who dreamed he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming he was a Zen master. So this story can be told differently. Once there was a butterfly, who dreamed he was a Zen master. When he awoke he did not know if he was a Zen master dreaming he was a butterfly, or a butterfly dreaming he was a Zen master. You’ll never know. Give up, but go get used to it. You’re making the whole fucking thing up. All phenomena arises in mind. There is no phenomena that does not arise in mind. Dreamer dream on, all day. Recognize that you are dreaming.
Your habitual reactions, the who of the dreamer, the subject, the doings of the dream, habitual reactions, could they be someone else’s in a dream? Say you go to sleep tonight, and you dream that you are a timid dog. And all those timid reactions of fearfulness which make perfect sense in the dog’s history of living on the street. It’s all a dream. You’re making it up. You wake up in the morning and all that pattern of reaction and personality was only a dream. This one that you’re wearing right now. The habitual reactions and way of being in the world, it’s a dream. Your interpretation of the phenomenon around you called perceptions, it’s a dream. By doing this practice well, it moves into the second level which is releasing, letting go of, your maintenance of grasping and aversion. Your five poisons – jealousy, anger, avarice, lust, sadness, sludgy depression, overwhelmingness – these five will o’ the wisps which you habitually bounce about in as you go through your day. All your emotional reactions are simply dreamed emotional reactions. Recognize them as such while having them. A dreamed personality has dreamed feelings about dreamed occurrences. As you recognize this during the day, your reactions smooth out a bit. Slowly over time, you just can’t get quite as upset if a dream of a husband cheats on you, as you can if you think it’s real.
Your body sensations, your perceptions. Everything that arises, arises as a dream. Feel the dream like quality of your inner life as well. Do you have daydreams? I have daydreams. Sure! I read something in the news and I have wonderful hero daydreams about fixing it. I’m a screwdriver kind of person – in this dream. Recognize those as dreams as well, while you dream them. Always, on all occasions, as you progress in doing this day by day, if you choose to do it, you will find that the situations you are in become more spacious. And the constrictions of anger and anxiety which arise around those dream situations becomes less tight, less real.
And so lucidity and flexibility arise naturally. Doing this practice also has an effect on daily life. You don’t suppress things. If you’re angry, don’t suppress the anger. See that you are dreaming a feeling of anger. You don’t have to act on it either. Without suppressing or entertaining the feeling see it for what it is. In Dzogchen, as the feelings arise in lucidity we allow them to arise and vanish – which they do – in their own nature. Arising in Tawa, dissolving as Tawa, never having been anything other than Tawa. Thoughts, feelings, and perceptions all do this in Trekcho. What you are going to do here in Dream Yoga is to add a little bit of shift to that. So that you recognize the arisings – phenomena – thoughts, feelings, perceptions, as dream stuff. It still arises in mind, dissolves in mind, has neither substance nor duration. How is that other than a dream? You’re not making it up that daily life is a dream. You are recognizing that it is a dream.
Respecting the Integrity of the Dream
But within this, you must respect the integrity of the dream you are dreaming. I want you to all say this out loud: “within dream yoga, I must respect the integrity of the dream. I am dreaming.” Just as you would respect the integrity of your Yidam and not harm it or attack it, so you do not harm or attack the dream. If in the integrity of the dream, the way it’s coming down, there is a car moving towards you, you respect the integrity of the dream and step out of the way. You don’t have to bother to be afraid or anxious about cars. But you do need to duck when it appears in the dream to be necessary. This is called respecting the integrity of the dream and if you don’t do it, you will simply wake yourself up. Dying is waking up from this dream. If you do it in the night dream, you’ll simply wake yourself up and have a devil of a time getting back to sleep. You will not attain lucidity in your dreams if you do not respect their integrity. One more time, I’m going to say this: respect the integrity of the dream!
Yes, recognize the phenomena such as the car coming towards you to be a coming towards you in a dream. But you’re having a lucid dream. You don’t want to lose that ability. So get out of the way of the car and continue the dream. Otherwise, it’s going to squish you and you will wake up into the Bardo. If it happens to be an at night dream where this happens you will lose your lucidity. And simply awaken to the Bardo of the confusion of the dream time, or wake up in your bed and be unable to go back to sleep. So don’t do that. You do not want to allow your body to be harmed in dream time. You all understand me here? This is really important. No jumping out the windows because you dream you can fly. If you dream you can fly, you can jump up from the ground and fly, but don’t jump out the window. Okay? Do you think that went through?
Nyondo: I think so, the comments went quiet.
LL: If you all jump out the window because you’re dreaming you can fly, I’m just gonna laugh. I’m gonna say “I told you so.” So there, you don’t get to blame it on me, I warned you. Okay?
Practice Before Bedtime
On to the next part of the day’s practice. To strengthen your intention, and this you can do, we’re segueing into the evening before you go to sleep. Just as when you first wake up in the morning you review the night’s dreams, when you go to bed at night, review the day’s dreams in exactly the same way. We’re not making a division between day dreaming, day’s dreaming – the dreams of the day – and night dreaming, the dreams of the night. They’re the same thing. And we are maintaining a lucidity that pervades both. Which is the awareness of being in a dream. Not the words “I am dreaming, I am dreaming, I am dreaming, I am dreaming.” It’s not a mantra. The feeling. Yes, the thought, the thinking that you are in a dream, but also the feeling of being in a dream. Of being a figment of a dream, not even the dreamer. You are the figment of a Buddha’s dream. A figment of all Buddhas of the four times, dreaming the phenomena of time and space and sentient beings.
You yourself are a dream. Feel it! Perceive everything as dream like. All your perceptions, your thoughts are the thoughts of a dream. Your feelings are the feelings arising in a dream, to a dream. Your perceptions, the same. So when you go and are preparing for sleep, just as when you wake up in the morning, you sit for a little while and you go over your dreams in one way or another? Do exactly the same thing with your day of dream. Write it down, tell the stick, or your teddy bear. Tape it, journal. However you choose, but spend that little time looking at the dream, in the context of the awareness that it was a dream. Experience your memories of the day as memories of the dream. You may begin to notice that many of the occurrences of the day did not make a whole shitload of sense. Many of the behaviors that you behave during the day, the doings, did not make a whole lot of sense. As you will have noticed occurs sometimes in dreams at night.
At this time also make a strong determination to tomorrow recognize that you are dreaming during the dream of the day as well as tonight. Maintain the continuity of awareness that you are dreaming. This is Monlam. It sometimes helps to recite a poem about it out loud. Write the poem, find a text that is relevant. I often recite the words of the butterfly that dreamed he was a Zen master. I find that works as a poem recited numerable times. This is called Monlam, invoking the speech chakra. You can also make prayers to the archetypes of your Yidam, if you are working with Kriya Tantra. In Yoga Tantra also that works. If you are working in the more Maha-anuttara and Anuttara Tantras, you would nonetheless make prayers to the archetype in the recognition that you were praying to the awake self of you, the dreamer. So depending on your level of Tantra – you can also if you’re working Dzogchen pray to your teacher to lend a hand – Guru Rinpoche, the archetype of the teacher or whosoever you have chosen as that.
Cultivating a Joyful Enthusiasm
You also want to cultivate a joyful enthusiasm. Remember my often talking about practices is choose to do the one you like, because then you’ll do it well. And they all work. You need this joyful enthusiasm about Dream Yoga to carry you through. The distractions, the tendency to “I don’t want, I think I’m going to just disappear into a stupid book”. You know that one, or the internet? You need to find it fun because things you find fun you will do. Have you not noticed that? If a particular video game is fun for you, you do it a lot. You could be practicing but the video game is more fun. So you’ve got to work on making the practice fun. Even simple things, like if you have trouble getting yourself to do your morning session? A little piece of chocolate every morning with the session, provided you do not indulge in chocolate at any other time of the day, sets a pattern of rewarding-ness. We do this with baby monks. We always feed them good stuff in puja. They eventually come to really like puja. They don’t even know how the Pavlovian association has occurred, but they feel happy in puja. It’s sweet. Well, do that to yourself. But create a joyful enthusiasm in your practice.
If you wake up in the morning, and were not aware you were dreaming during the night, don’t thwap yourself about the head for it. Simply joyfully and happily say, “well, how nice, there’ll be another night to try again.” If you are going to bed in the evening and on reviewing the dreams of the day, discover that you were not lucid and aware you were dreaming through many of it. Don’t thwap yourself about the head for failing! Simply rejoice that there will be another day. And you will remain lucid through that. Do you see how we’re treating the night dreams and the day dreams the same way? By day dream I don’t mean those fantasies about being a superhero. I refer to daily life as the words day dream.
Questions
LL: Are there questions on this, which was pretty much the day practices?
Nyondo: There are questions!
LL: Give me a few.
Nyondo: How can I train myself to be able to fall asleep on my back?
LL: Why do you want to do that? Let that get an answer and we’ll come up with the next one.
Nyondo: Okay.
LL: If I understand why, I may be able to help you.
Nyondo: Both waking time and dream time seemed equally real, but waking time seems to have more continuity over time. Why?
LL: That’s because we’re talking in waking time. While you are in the dream, it seems to have perfect continuity, during the experience of night dreams. It’s only when you wake in the morning that it seems to have less continuity. If you were to dream – you know how you sometimes dream you get up and go pee? And then you wake up when you’re on the toilet and it doesn’t come out and you realize you’re still in bed, and you’re well trained not to piss the bed. And you do this several times before you actually make it to the bathroom. Like this happens when it’s really cold. And you really don’t want to get out of bed but you really have to pee. You ever had that experience? So, if you were to dream at night that you were going over your previous dream of the day which had been at night, which had been your daily experience, it also wouldn’t have all that much continuity. You just think it does while you’re in it. Next.
Nyondo: Give me a moment here. It was one I wanted to make sure we got out there. Where does the resistance to recognize that we are dreaming come from?
LL: Fear of enlightenment. Enlightenment is the completely natural state. If you are actually to stop actively resisting it, you’d fall right in. We don’t wanna. There’s a Sutra story about a man who came home from the market with the usual things you get in the market, grain and maybe some ribbons for his daughter’s hair. And he saw that his house was on fire. And his teenage sons were still in the house, playing. And he called to them, “my sons my sons, come out, come out!” But being teenagers, they yelled back, “in a minute, hold on, I’m busy!” And he called again to them “sons, sons, my sons, come out, the house is on fire!” “ Yeah, yeah, Dad, be there in a minute. I’ll be right with ya,” as teenagers tend to do. You’ll recognize this if you have one. Finally he called in to the lads, “oh my sons come out, come out! I am back from the market and I have found the most wonderful thing. I have brought home an elephant and some camels which you have never seen. Come out quickly and have a look!” And the sons came running out of the house. And they looked around and there’s the wagon with some grain and stuff from the market, veggies, and it’s like “what lions and camels? Dad!” And he points back just as the roof falls in.
Video game is so much more fun, isn’t it? Not really, but until you have experienced the bliss beyond, you will not want to let go of your entertainments. So you’re going to have to trick yourself into it. Tricky text, they all are. The absolute simplicity of freedom doesn’t seem nearly as interesting as the entertainment of true love. Good sex. Chocolate. Adventure. Travel, strange places, odd foods. Fun. Until you are ready to let go, you won’t let go. Even though you realize the house is on fire. You may decide that the fire is not moving all that fast and you can just finish this video game before going out. And how many times have you decided that? Until death comes upon you and the roof falls in? Yeah, attachment, aversion, the fear of loss of existence. And so the clinging to duality of subject and object which perpetuates the experiencer having experiences, which is what samsara feels like actually. Come with me, I’ll show you camels and elephants.
Next question, and did the person who wanted to sleep on their back come back with why they wanted to do that?
Nyondo: Not, Let me check. Not that I have seen.
LL: I’m going to talk about sleeping positions more in a little while.
Nyondo: Can you say more about combining Gom and recognizing you’re dreaming?
LL: Gom, the second word of Garab Dorje. The main meditation of Dzogchen is utterly simple. Once you have been introduced to your own true nature, Tawa; we call it Tawa because there really is no other word for it. Tawa, infinite open awareness, vital, alive with the shimmer of creativity, Tawa. Once you have been introduced to that, the meditation is not just done sitting. It is done sitting, but it is also – not instead of – also done not sitting. The trick to Gom, to get it to work, which stabilizes Trekcho – Trekcho is Gom, another word for it means cutting through, it’s an advanced level of Gom because it cuts through all the crap. The trick to stabilizing it is the following second phrase of Garab Dorje – at all times, and on all occasions, recognize the already noticed Dharmakaya nature of mind, infinite open awareness. Do not grab it. You cannot grab a handful of the sky. You cannot hold on to the sky, but you don’t need to, it’s right here! There’s no need to hold on to sky. You won’t fall out of the sky, it’s all here space, sky, Namkhai. Sorry, in Tibetan it’s the same word for space and sky. So in the same way you don’t have to hold on to Tawa, but you want to shift the karma from the obscurations of your habits to the recognition of nature of mind. To do that you simply look again and again, repeatedly, at all times and on all occasions. In the words of Changchub Dorje, who in his private teaching to Wangdor Rinpoche – Changchub Dorje was also Norbu Rinpoche’s root guru, very wonderful famous lama – while walking and talking; while getting up and sitting down, allow, release, relieve your attention into Dharmakaya nature of mind.
So that’s Gom. In Dream Yoga, while doing these practices of Dream Yoga, we add a layer. Recognize that you are dreaming that you recognize Tawa, that you are a figment of the dream of Chunye [?]. Chunye [?], Dharmadhatu, Dharmakya, Sambhogokya, Nirmanakya is one thing. A great Dharma. Sem nye, great mind, is dreaming that it is you noticing nature of mind. You’re a figment of the dream of all Buddhas of the four times, are you not? What else is a sentient being? One awakens into Buddhahood when circumstances, karma allows it. Next question.
Nyondo: We have a follow up to the back question.
LL: Yes
Nyondo: on the back feels somehow better for practice kind of like when we sit with a straight back in meditation.
LL: The problem with sleeping on your back is it really is only suitable for use – I will teach you in the next session after you have mastered these practices, the one in which you do back sleeping. The problem is it tends to keep you awake, if not, except when used at certain times in certain circumstances. What you want to do is side sleeping. In the Bon system, you as a woman will sleep on your left side in the lion position. As a man, you will sleep on your right side in the lion position. I do not know – I could make thousands of speculations, but I’ve never been right in speculating about my own teacher. Every time I’ve asked him if any of my speculations are true, he’s like, “What are you making up this time?” So for reasons unknown to me, he always taught me to sleep on my right. I’m sure there were reasons for him to do that – or not. However, traditionally in Bon, which is the text I’m actually looking at, and the teachings that I’ve actually had in a more concerted Western way as in attending lectures on, whereas in the Tibetan system, I just got given bits and sent to go off and do them – women sleep on their left and men sleep on their right. This is just because of the channel setup. So I would recommend that you not sleep on your back for this purpose. At this time, it will tend to get your sleep too light, and it will be hard to go to sleep. Later I will teach you when to use that, but not first. Other questions?
Nyondo: Should I avoid using my smartphone before going to bed?
LL: Absolutely! No question about that. Stay off the internet! It will interfere. Every time I indulge myself in internet before going to bed I fuck up my dream yoga. I still do it sometimes. “I’ll be out in a minute dad, yeah yeah just a minute, let me finish this video game!” Oops. Roof falls in. Yeah, I fuck up too. When you fuck up by messing with video games and the like before sleep, messing with the internet and social stuff right before sleep, just say oops and try better tomorrow. Or schedule another time in the day perhaps after supper, but not in the one to two hours before bed.
If your Kindle has internet access, your book reader, you would be better off to really train yourself not to allow it, to put it on airplane mode as you enter the bedroom.
I know, not easy. Try. You’ll fuck up occasionally. I still do. Yeah, I like my internet. I just want to look one thing up. I’m reading some text and I come to a word that I’m wondering what the hell they translated as that. And have a guess and want to look it up or check it. My Tibetan dictionary is online so I would turn it back on. And don’t do that. As once you do that then you’re going to go get caught in YouTube. YouTube is my downfall. Chinese cooking and glassblowing currently, that got me the other night. Next question.
Nyondo: Today I automatically approached an itch as a dream and didn’t need to bother with it. But my energy body scratched it. Does stuff like that happen as a result of Dream Yoga?
LL: Sure. Anything happens as a result of Dream Yoga. Wait till we get to the part of the teachings I have to give you in dream, that I can’t give you on this side. It’s quite amazing what is possible out there.
Nyondo: Couple of related questions on yidam practice.
LL: Uh huh.
Nyondo: It happens when I do yidam practice at night when I fall asleep. I dream that I continue doing yidam practice. And person asked about their yidam attacking something in their dream and having it feel good like something was fleeing their body
LL: Yidam attacked obscurations, got them out, good! Both of those, excellent!
Nyondo: Let’s see what else we have here. We have many questions. Is there an order in which we should review the daydreams the day’s dreams before bed?
LL: No. See what works for you. Treat them just like the night’s dreams in the morning.
Nyondo: How can I know if my experience really was a lucid dream, where I could decide what to do or if I was just dreaming that?
LL: Ingee, you were just dreaming that – you’re just dreaming this! You’re just dreaming all of it! There’s no either/or there. Next.
Nyondo: Question about integrity in dreams. Does integrity mean we don’t modify the dream unless they will result in our dying?
LL: No. Integrity at this point means you get accustomed to become lucid in the dream, but you do not go against the logic of the dream. This is a basic safety issue. It has to do with even in lucid dreams, not doing things that would harm your body. Whether it is a daytime lucid dream where you are aware you are dreaming, or a nighttime lucid dream where you are aware you are dreaming. It has to do with respecting the logic of the dream in such a way that you don’t break it.
If you become lucid in the dream and you start changing small things that will work. But it is possible, when the logic of the dream has you – how do I describe this? There’s a way of breaking the dream that wakes you up, you’ll find it by accident, trust me. Where you go against the logic of the dream in such a way that the dream can no longer maintain itself with your lucidity. And it either becomes a wholly different dream, and possibly even someone else who is not a dream Yogi as the main character, who of course can’t be lucid because they aren’t a yogi. They are just some drunk guy on the corner. Who you now dream you are and of course he wouldn’t be aware to be lucid, so you aren’t.
You – if you break the integrity of the dream, you lose your – I guess I’ll call it continuity of the dream – just as in the daytime dreams if you break the integrity, and don’t, say, duck the truck coming towards you, you will break the continuity of the dream which is called this current life and it won’t continue. So you don’t want to break the continuity of the dream by getting yourself thrown out of the dream by yourself. Because it can’t maintain its internal logic, whatever that is. Later, we will do exercises involved – not today – changing the internal logic of the dream. But if you do, if you try that too much too soon, you’ll just break the dream. You’ll wake yourself up, you’ll fall lout. It’s like, yeah, it’s nice to dream that you’re flying. But if it’s not a flying dream where you dream you can fly and you jump too hard, you’ll jump right out of the damn dream.
So it’s subtle there. But you will get the idea once you try a few times and try changing things and change something too strongly and pop the dream. And you don’t want to pop the daytime dream either because that would be death or injury. It would break its continuity. Which I believe you are rather attached to, are you not? This life, even if it’s not going very well, you still aren’t quite ready to trade it in – quite sure that you could steer effectively through the Bardo. Dream yoga trains you up for the Bardo. If you master dream yoga, Bardo no problem. Next question.
Nyondo: Someone asked a question I was also curious about, and it has to do with the sleeping on the left side, right side, and the channel setup for that.
LL: Mmhmm?
Nyondo: Someone asked, as a woman, I feel much more comfortable sleeping on the right side. Should I just continue that?
LL: Give it a try and see the tone of your dreams. If while sleeping on the right side, your dreams are more positive in a dharmic way, more peaceful, more aware, then go with that. If you find that they are not, try the left side and see if that improves things or doesn’t.
The reason I’m suggesting this,is it appears fairly rare, but I have met at least one person, student of Bon, whose channels were reversed from the traditional. I believe it does happen sometimes just as there’s a few people whose hearts are not on the left, they’re on the right? It happens. There’s a few people, the way their vascular system runs, you don’t find their pulse here, you have to find it over here. Further over, usually they’ll tell you if you’re for some reason feeling their pulse that they have an anatomical issue and it’s on the other side. So you check there. So knowing that in western physiology, not everyone follows the norm. I would assume that that is also true in Tibetan physiology, and it’s not an absolute 100%. It’s like all Tibetans are right handed. Even the ones who started out left handed. You write with your right hand. Enforced, as it used to be in the West. But not everyone is naturally right handed. So check it out, test it for yourself. If you suspect you may be one of the variations. Most people have it the normal way. Next question.
Nyondo: another position related question.
LL: Uh huh.
Nyondo: At night I can only fall asleep when I’m on my side. But during daytime naps, I can only sleep on my back. Is there any significance to this difference?
LL: Are you taking daytime naps in bed, or is it the way the couch supports you? I understand that actually. I sleep better at night on my side, and I sleep better in the daytime and often on my back mostly. And it has to do with just how damn sleepy I am. Because I also sleep quite comfortably sitting up if I’m sleepy. So I think that’s just you, and don’t worry about it.
Nyondo: I struggle with anger and anxiety. I do mantras every day and meditate, but I’m still angry. Talking about anger and anxiety interfering with this practice. What am I doing wrong? Or how do I fix it?
LL: You’re not doing anything wrong. You simply have pre-existing karmic patterns arising as anger and anxiety. They have arisen in such a way that this current life of yours has appeared to have many causes of danger. Are you by any chance an Afro-American guy in America? Because that would certainly account for it. And I would say those feelings are wholly appropriate, but not necessarily useful to you.
So what you want to do, is not tell yourself that there is no danger, but rather that you are dreaming there is danger. Not tell yourself that you are not angry, but rather tell yourself that you are dreaming that you are angry. Don’t act necessarily on the anger; you will have much better effect against what you are angry about if you can coolly decide how to get it to change. You will have much better ability to avoid danger if you are not shaking with anxiety when the cop comes over to talk to you. You will be much better able to assess that particular cop and decide what might work to keep you safe, if you are not all shaken by the occurrence. So as the things happen which are perceived as dangerous, cause of anxiety, or most annoying cause of anger, enraging. Perceive them as occurring in a dream. Give this time to work, okay? It’s gonna take at least a week to start unraveling some of your karmic patterns. Well, maybe four days to begin. So you got to keep up with it. As something assessed as dangerous approaches, don’t say it’s not dangerous and I don’t need to be afraid, that doesn’t work. “I am dreaming that danger approaches and I am dreaming that I am anxious” – but these are all occurring in a dream. It will slowly take your anxiety and anger down a peg where you can be more effective at avoiding what you are anxious about, and changing what you are angry about.
Nyondo: A couple people wanting more discussion on what it feels like.
LL: What what feels like?
Nyondo: The question is, I can tell myself solid matter is my dream but it still feels solid. How to feel it as a dream?
LL: But when you’re dreaming, it feels solid too. If you dream you’re sitting on a rock, it feels solid. Of course it’s a dream. How is it different? What, does your hand move through rocks all the time in dreams? Mine might occasionally, but then it does occasionally in the waking state when I’m not paying attention, so what the fuck? Or at least I’ve seen other people do it. I’ve been told I did it once. I wasn’t paying attention. The point I’m making is no, when you dream you’re sitting at the table, the table seems to be really there in the dream, right? Doesn’t seem insubstantial in the dream while you’re dreaming it. So in the same way, all of this, all this stuff, the cup of coffee, the text, it feels like a dream. Even the personality of the dreamer is part of the dream. I don’t know about you, but I often dream I’m someone else. I rarely dream as Lama Lena. Sometimes.
There was a butterfly who dreamed it was a Zen master.
One more and then back onto a few more things.
Nyondo: Can respecting integrity mean befriending demons, to integrate shadow of psyche? That’s how they put it here.
LL: No. I mean, if you want to befriend a demon, go for it. But that’s not what is meant by respecting the integrity of the dream. Find another way to say it. Every dream including this one has a certain logic that is operative in that dream, and only in that dream. There are places in the universe where the logic operative in the Homo sapien realm is not operative. Depends on the dream. When I say “respect the integrity of the dream”, I say, what I’m saying is, go along with the internal logic of it. If in the dream there is gravity, respect the gravity and don’t step off the roof. If in the dream you’re in a space station and there is no gravity, but still inertia and momentum, respect those so you don’t bash your head on the wall. This is what I mean. Exactly this and only this. You see a demon in a dream and you want to make friends with it, and offer it a glass of wine and go for it, or not.
Nyondo: Are there breathing practices, tsa lungs, or pramayamas that are helpful for lucidity?
LL: Yes. Coming up for that. The breathing exercise which is excellent to do before going to sleep is the basic nine breaths of purification. Most of you know that. I will give you a review, for those of you who may have not been practicing it lately.
Women: with your left hand, place your thumb on the base of your ring finger. Men: with your right hand place your thumb on the base of your ring finger.
Sitting cross legged or in the Maitreya position with your back straight. I’m going to do it the women’s way, but men just adapt it in your own way.
Bring your right hand around, opening your chest muscles. Bring your finger to your left nostril. Breathe in through your right nostril. Don’t move this hand, I’m pointing for you. Breathe in through your right nostril, bringing the air up around the top of your head, down through the side channel to the bottom and across at the Dantian where your uterus is, and to the other channel and you’re going to exhale there. So it’s like this. Watch me.
Three times, then the other side. Three times each side. Then you’re going to breathe in through both nostrils, bring it around through the side channels, bring them both down to the bottom at the dantian where your uterus is, and then you’re going to bump them up by doing a Kegel. You’re going to bump them into the central channel. And then you’re going to breathe out through the central channel through the top of your head. For those of you practicing Tummo, this is a bit similar but you don’t put the lid on and push down. You just pull up. Questions on the nine breaths? Let’s get that clarified, before I go on.
Nyondo: Not yet, maybe people will need some time.
LL: Okay. After you do that, Guru Yoga. You need the blessing of the teacher. So in the Nyingma lineage you would visualize Kuntu Zangpo or Guru Rinpoche or your personal teacher. In the Bon lineage Kuntu Zangpo, Kuntu Zangmo, and I like to visualize them in union. Would be Taphistra . I’m not pronouncing that right. Taphirista? See, I have less experience with Bon, although it’s excellent. Most of the archetypes I work with have been Nyingma. Kagyu can use Karmapa. Sakya, you would use the first Sakya Trizin or Guru Shakyamuni. Gelugpa, you would use Tsongkhapa or your personal teacher. In whatever lineage you feel most at home. Visualize right after you do this. Visualize. Formless primordial mind in the form of your guru, your guru archetype.
This is the embodiment of all teachers of the lineage. See it as such. Don’t see it as a particular individual with a personality, even if you are visualizing your individual, personal teacher, see them as an open door, transmitting to you all Buddhas of the four times. Which itself is the primordial awareness of your true nature. Feel intense devotion. Say whatever prayers please you. Refuge, Guru Yoga.
Visualize that all of your negative qualities are purified, and positive qualities of lucidity arise. See a white light coming from their form chakra and entering your forehead. A red light coming from their speech chakra and entering your speech. A blue light coming from their heart chakra and entering your heart. And these lights transform you into pure, clear, open awareness, transparent light in its shimmer of creativity. And you and your teacher share Dharmata, you are both Dharmata. The white light relaxes your body, purifying it. The red light relaxes your speech, your intent, your doings, purifies it. The blue light relaxes your mind, purifies it. Then the image itself dissolves and enters your heart and resides there as pure awareness – Rigpa.
Now, in order to sleep well after having done this, often a sense of safety is helpful. To do this, you would imagine yourself surrounded by Dakas and Dakinis. Mostly green in color. Green the color of activity. These are your protectors, feel their presence, like a little kid feeling mama there. You’re all safe. It’s a good idea to enhance the sacredness of your sleeping environment while doing Dream Yoga, such as placing an altar shelf right above the edge of your bed with an electric votive candle. Please don’t use a live flame, if you live in a wooden house. We use live flames in our caves because they’re made of rock, they don’t burn. But right there in the middle of the head of your . bed, a little shelf. And you can put on that shelf those symbols which mean much to you, and a little votive of light. You can put objects of a sacred nature, anywhere about your room. Although it is best not to point them where your feet go, not to put them so that your feet are pointed directly at them. Put them to the sides, above. It has inauspicious effects on your channel patterns to sleep with your feet pointed at sacred objects, not the best placement for them.
I am going to give you tonight the first of the main evening practices that furthers lucidity. After you have practiced all day, recognizing your daydream as it is, a dream, and done the before bed pattern setting. Now it’s time to lie down and go to sleep. The lion posture is what’s recommended. That’s on your side. Men on their right side, women on their left is traditional. I don’t know, my teacher taught me to sleep on my right side in that spot and then I got into a Gomtre and it was a moot point, hand under your pillow. Make sure your neck is comfortable. Other hand lying along your body, your legs bent just enough to stabilize the position so that you don’t roll off it easily. Start in that position. Now, I’m going to take this into two directions here and give you two methods. One is a traditional Bon and the other is how I was taught.
Visualize a white, Ah, a Tibetan Ah. Nyondo, I sent you an image to send out to people.
Nyondo: Yes. Find it now, and I’ll post it into the…
LL: Yeah, we’re putting one in for you. You can put the rainbow colored lights around it as in this image and this is more of a Nyingma. In Bon, you visualize the Ah on a red four petaled lotus in your throat chakra, so that the red light shines through the Ah and it is made of clear light, so that it looks red because it’s on a red background. In Norbu Rinpoche’s teachings it’s a white Ah that you visualize. The way I was taught it is a clear light Ah that you not only visualize, but are. Recognize the true nature of your mind, perceive it is a transparent light in the shape of the letter Ah, the first letter of the alphabet of speech, of doing, of choosing deed, of intent.
I was not taught to put it in a chakra. I was taught to be it. And it was not in a place. It was in mind, and I was mind, and I was it in mind and it was the size of mind, not a particular size. Not one inch square, as in Bon. It had no size for it was beyond the concepts of big and small. My mind was the Ah, infinitely open awareness as Ah, and to rest in the transparent light of intent of lucidity, which is symbolized by the Ah, and slide into the dream time. So that is how I was taught it. It is a little bit simpler and more “in” Dzogchen. The Bon, who like detailed visualizations, put it on a lotus, a red lotus, and each petal has a syllable on it. Ra in the front, La on the left, Sa on the right, Sha in the back. These are Tibetan syllables, but your attention is focused mostly on the Ah. The Ah is about an inch square. One of the things that it is advised to do, if you are perhaps not very experienced at visualization, is to print out the Ah that I’m sending you here.
Nyondo: Yeah, it’ll also be posted on the Facebook page as well.
LL: yeah, to download and print that out. And print it out the size so that the letter itself is an inch square. Get a stick. Stick it in a coffee can full of beans or rice or something. So that it stands up, and get it so that it’s exactly the right size that it stands up at nose level for you. Straight out from the end of your nose. So if you were to draw a line from the end of your nose to the Ah, about an arm’s length in front of you, the line would be perpendicular to the ground. And then sit and do shine on the Ah. This is used as a remedy if you have trouble visualizing the Ah and maintaining the visualization as you sleep. Shine is said to help stabilize the strength and clarity of your mind. However, if your practice is Trekcho, that will do so also. So this is not instead of your sitting. If you sit in Mahamudra with an object. Then if you are doing dream yoga, let the object be this Ah rather than a pebble. Any questions on this?
Nyondo: We did get questions about the breathing.
LL: Okay.
Nyondo: Let me bring those up first. Question about the Lion position. Is it okay to put a pillow between my legs, it helps my spine?
LL: Yes, it is. It is not cheating to put pillows where you need ‘em. Your body is itself and you work with what you got. Some of us are kind of old. Next.
Nyondo: Where was it. Oh yeah. On the breathing technique. If one is transgender do they do the way that matches their gender or the gender they were assigned at birth?
LL: This – being able to fully transition transgender – is new. We have not experimented with it much to see how it works. I- if I had, were transitioning, I would try the gender I’d identified with first to see if it worked well for me. If it did, great! If I had some problems with it, I’d try it the other way and see if it worked better. Don’t know. Which would you rather? Me – I’d rather use whatever one I identified with so I’d be doing the same with everybody in the same room if everybody was doing it. So if we were all guys then I’d be doing it the guy way. But I’m pretty gender flexible personally in my own self. So, I tend to do things every which way and see what works. Take your guess. Give it a try. See how it works.
Nyondo: Let’s see. How do I know I’ve brought the breath into the central channel from the side ones?
LL: This is a visualization. You pretend you did so, even if you don’t know if you did so or not.
Nyondo: And clarification on the method, you covered the left nostril with the left hand and right with the right for each set?
LL: Yes!
Nyondo: Or… okay.
LL: I have seen it done where it’s…(demonstrates) And in fact, did it that way for the longest time. I still do sometimes. It’s more the nostrils and that you’re extending your shoulders, getting the cricks out in the process, any cricks in your rib cage here, which is why you go around.
Nyondo: For the visualization of the Ah, which is now posted as a photo on the Lama Lena live page, people can find it- does the all face outward or are we facing it directly?
LL: It faces outward when it’s in your throat chakra. It faces you when it’s on the stick.
Nyondo: Just going through the breathing, would it be appropriate to visualize you in the Guru Yoga?
LL: As long as you recognize that it’s not Lama Lena, the personality. It’s the whole lineage and I’m just holding the door open for you.
Nyondo: For this practice, what do you mean, we need the blessing of the teacher, if we use Guru Rinpoche?
LL: For all practice, you need to connect with the lineage to get them to work. It’s such a “goes without saying” in Tibetan, how can I say it in another way in English? Um…that connection is integral. The transmission, the mind transmission of the unthinkable, is necessary. Besides, you’re gonna need some help in the dream time when we get on to the more advanced practices. So you’re gonna have to meet up with a teacher over there. You need their blessing in the dream time as well as here.
Nyondo: What about the visualization of the colors of the channels in the ninefold breathing?
LL: White, red, and blue. In general, the breath breathed in, I was originally taught was clear transparent light, and breathed out was whatever pollution had been accumulated in my channels and I was sending out for the two sides. And when we got to the middle one they were all pretty clear and it was just the white light coming up, but clear light coming up and out. However, the Bon use a green light. Next.
Nyondo: Can you repeat the visualization of the breath moving, just the directions?
LL: Yes. So the breath goes in. And this channel runs up behind your eyes and around the top of your head and then back down and it runs in front of your spine. It’s about as wide as a pencil. It comes down and right about where your cervix is – it connects to both the central channels, which is the size of a bamboo cane around, it’s much bigger, and the other side’s channel which is the same shape, they all connect down here in the bottom, at the Dantian. Dantian’s a Tibetan medical term, it’s about – guys, you don’t have a uterus to know where they are – it’s about four fingers below your navel and inside in front of the spine, deep inside.
Nyondo: Is there, are there other ways of testing your channels to judge whether you use the feminine method or the masculine method?
LL: I will research that for you, and you please remind me next time we come together on Dream Yoga. I’m not thinking of one offhand, but I bet you there is. Let me check. I know someone who may well know more about this than me and I’ll check in with them.
Nyondo: Can I use an English form of Ah until I can visualize the Tibetan version?
LL: Some say yes, and some say no. I’m awfully traditional, I say no. However, Norbu Rinpoche says yes. We disagree. What fun! You decide.
Nyondo: When I visualize the white Ah before sleep, I can’t fall asleep.
LL: Okay, so in that case, I want you to visualize it softer. You’re visualizing it too hard. Once you visualize it and start visualizing hard, then gently let that visualization fade into just a subtle awareness of it being there rather than an entire focusness on it. Let your focusness slide. So you’re aware that the white Ah is still there, whether as nature of mind everywhere or here, however you’re choosing to do it, whatever is easier for you. As you begin to also notice the pictures, you know, as you’re sliding into sleep, there’s a really short dream time that comes first. And then it goes into deep sleep, but on the way in, there’s like pictures, is the start of it. So just slowly keep it in the back of your mind. That same sort of awareness, like you know, you know where your kid is, if they’re like a toddler or newborn, you’re always sort of vaguely aware of where they are. Even when you’re doing other stuff. Put it in that kind of awareness, that gentle awareness and let your more upper attention start looking at the pictures.
Nyondo: Somebody repeated their question.
LL: Maybe they really wanted to know.
Nyondo: Okay. Um. I have the ability to remember dreams and occasionally lucid dreams. But I wake up a lot during the night. It feels like a discharge of energy going through my body, please advise.
LL: Don’t worry about it, that’s just tripping over the sill, we call it. Sometimes happens as you’re going to sleep, sometimes in process. It’s a channel thing. do the Nine Breaths before sleep, that may well help. If that doesn’t help add to it the channel stretch that I’ve taught you, the one where you breathe in, and on the in-breath, you stretch all of your channels all the way out to infinity in all directions as far as you can imagine, and then you relax and breathe out. Do that a couple of times too; that may help you not – what we call tripping over this door sill – on your way in and out of dream time, which is that sort of rush of energy.
Nyondo: About the breathing exercise. I am new to this. Will we learn more about the nine breaths in the next session?
LL: No, this was the teaching on the nine breaths. You can, if you want a text on it, go Google it. Nine Breaths, it should be there somewhere on the Internet, or email me and I’ll find you a URL that’s actually accurate, because God knows what you’re going to find on the internet. And there’s some weird stuff out there about the nine breaths too. So go ahead and email me if you’ve never had those before. I will find a decent URL that actually is in accord with the proper teachings and not something somebody made up and called it the nine breaths, and I will send that to you by email. Eventually. I’m about three to four days behind on my emails, at least, at the moment because I’ve been teaching and practicing and sometimes – I just don’t wanna. Human. Feet of clay, get used to it!
Nyondo: About the breathing exercise, does the breath come up through the center channel, or the side…
LL: In the last three breaths.
Nyondo: In the last three breaths and where does it go out exactly? Is it the top of your…
LL: If follow your ears straight up to where the line straight up and around from your nose would meet, you’ll find a little dent right about there, a little tender spot. Du 20 in Chinese, it comes out there.
Nyondo: There’s a number of questions where people have described their dreams and want to know the meaning of them. And I think a more general question is, how can you tell if a dream is important as you’re doing dream yoga? Whether it’s a dream you’re entertaining yourself with or some signal of karma or some vision of the future. How can you tell these things?
LL: At this stage, as far as I’ve taken you, your dreams in general, are karmic dreams, I talked about the three types of dreams last time. The karmic dreams. Let me check the reference so I get the names right. The dreams of clarity and the clear light dreams. Right now almost all your dreams are karmic dreams. They’re Lung/Chi whistling through the channels. All of your experiences are the same – karmic. So that isn’t something to really worry about. At this point, we’re trying to become lucid and to encourage dreams of clarity which will eventually lead to clear light dreams.
Clear light dreams is where you dream your own enlightenment. Sometimes you get teachings in dreams of clarities. How can you tell? Most karmic dreams involve either situations that you recognize or situations that some element of it you recognize, but it’s out of a past life so the place, the person may be different. Clarity dreams usually strongly contain symbolic communication. You might dream that you are with your teacher, that you receive their blessing. You might dream that you meet your yidam. You might dream that you are your yidam. Generally, simply compare them to what you know about the Dharma already, to see if they fit in are oddly skewed by your obscurations. For that, I think that’s as far as I’m going to go on dream interpretation. To interpret your dreams, look at your own symbols and the symbols that you are accustomed to, and imprinted with. Any other questions? We’re at a couple hours.
Nyondo: On the breathing, just a review of which finger actually closes the nostril?
LL: Ring finger, the one with the rings on it. See? See there’s a channel. This is the finger of the sun in Western palmistry. There is a channel of great power that runs through that finger and up the arm into the heart. Next.
Nyondo: There was one, okay. I used to have many lucid dreams but two years ago I started having only karmic dreams. What is the reason?
LL: For you personally, I don’t know. I know that it is normal to go through periods of lucidity and periods of lesser lucidity. Usually, in my case, I get distracted by some other practice. Some other occurrence. Some other doing. And take my attention off the dream time onto something else and forget all about it. And then the lucidity fades away. Happens less frequently and then I go into a spate of no lucidity, karmic dreaming. And then I notice and return my attention to it. It’s really a matter of attention.
Nyondo: A quick question about stomach sleepers. I start on my side but always end up on my stomach.
LL: Yeah, Tibetans tend to sleep on narrower than we’re accustomed to beds so that they learn early, not to turn over because they fall out. Um, so they don’t have a habit of rolling around as much in their sleep as Westerners. Don’t worry about it. When you wake up and notice you’re on your stomach, switch slightly back to on your side. You can be somewhat stomach tending, like be on your side with your top leg even further in front of your bottom leg, so you’re somewhat stomach-ish, and then put a pillow here. Try that. Like one of those body bolsters.
Nyondo: Is it okay to read a book before bed?
LL: It would behove you to put down the book and do these last practices right before sleep. Before then, yes, go ahead. I do not know if you will get it to work if you do these practices, then pick up a book and read yourself to sleep. I think less so. Unless you really hold that Ah while you read and/or maintain strong awareness that you are dreaming you are reading a book.
Nyondo: If I become aware that I am dreaming and can change things, should I? What karmic effect does this have?
LL: Go ahead and change things. It’s something I was going to talk more about, but be aware that if you change too many things too quickly or too much, you’re likely to break the dream and wake yourself up or flop yourself into a different dream. So start a little carefully and see how many changes it takes to break the dream. Generally we start out with – Oh and don’t necessarily change things while looking at them – for instance, I have a peach. If I want to change it to an apricot, I move it behind myself. Like that. I can’t change this back to a peach while looking at it. But if I put it out of my view, I can change it. But you can’t do that while you’re looking at it. So just stick some, say you have a red cup or a piece of fruit, stick it behind you and change it and then bring it out.
It’s easier that way. It’s easier not to break the dream than really trying hard while you’re looking at it. Because the logic of the dream may be that it doesn’t change. Whereas if you take it out of your view, it could be that you simply mis-remembered what was in your hand. So it’s not as breaking of the dream’s logic, which if done overmuch tends to knock you out of the dream.
Nyondo: One more, okay, this is actually I think, a good leader here. Can you address dreams of receiving teachings from Tibetan teachers, and dreams of doing practices with the Sangha?
LL: Excellent! Do that! Uh huh. One of the goals is to receive teachings from teachers that you may not have had the opportunity to receive certain teachings from in life. Practicing in the dream time can be much more powerful and even have stronger results than practicing in the day dream time.
Definitely do that if it happens, enjoy it, rejoice in it afterwards.
And I think that’s enough for today. There will be more on this but get this working before we go to the next.
(Dedicating Merit)
LL: I’ll see you next time. Tomorrow is ordinary Ngondro. For all those of you who have wondered if you should or should not take Refuge; if you should or should not do a Ngondro. The ordinary Ngondro is the very first and basic one, and I will do it with you tomorrow. It’s the easy one, no hundred thousands of anything. So perhaps I’ll see you then.
Dream Yoga - Part 3
In the third part of this series on dream yoga, Lama Lena teaches practices to do while dreaming and describes where students can meet her in dreams! She answers questions about facing fear, finding termas, meeting teachers, and more.
Make sure you have watched the first teaching before checking this one out, as each builds on the other.
This teaching was streamed live from Lama Lena’s home on September 5th 2020
(See below for full transcript of this teaching)
Lama Lena: So today we have a continuation of the Dream Yoga teachings. Tomorrow there will be a pop-up. A pop-up is a teaching that depends on circumstances or things I have seen in a dream that tells me that it is needed. Or things I have noticed from my emails that it is needed. So I am awaiting some tsampa, which should arrive this afternoon probably. If it arises, then tomorrow I will teach on how to set up an altar and how to make tormas. If I don’t get my tsampa, I can’t make tormas for you, I can’t show you how to do that. So it’s waiting on that. We’ll still have a teaching if that doesn’t arrive. It will simply be a question and answer.
Today, we’re going to do a lot of dealing with your questions. So start putting them up there now, as we begin. But stay on the topic of Dream Yoga. I’m not doing questions today that aren’t on topic. A lot of you have been asking questions about what this dream or that dream means. Since most dreams are you talking to yourself in dream time symbols, you have a better chance of figuring that out than I do. Since you know your own symbolism better than I do. It won’t necessarily be exactly the same symbols as me. So put up your questions because I think I want to do that. First I want to see where you are, while we invoke the lineage.
[Lineage Prayer]
Let’s start with what questions have arisen, if any.
Nyondo: The first question is, I’m having lots of dreams that I’m remembering since the last teaching. How do I deal with waking after the initial dreams when they wake me and I cannot get back to sleep? Also, is there a way to encourage dreams of clarity?
LL: There is. Working with these syllables, the Hung, here. And there are other syllables in other chakras, but I’m not sure, you can have accidents if your chakras aren’t very clear. So I’m not sure about teaching that to people who have not completed the Inner Body Rushen. I think the rest of them I might teach in a different retreat form, just because of the amount of trouble you can get into working with the energies of the other chakras if you haven’t got them fairly cleaned out first. That’s why the nine breaths are so important. They clean out the channels. If you have gunk in a particular chakra, it will interfere in your dream yoga. Your best bet for dreams of clarity are to work with the, not the Hung, I’m sorry, the AH. The AH in the throat chakra, the clear transparent AH, the white AH surrounded by rainbow light. In Tibetan symbolism, white and transparent are almost interchangeable in some ways of explanation.
So the ha – the AH – A-H, AH, and in Tibetan it is often drawn with a little “H” in the bottom of it. Not always, sometimes it’s just drawn as the AH. In the rainbow colored light is very similar to the bright red light of the chakra with the transparent AH. White, transparent, very much the same, work with that for dreams of clarity. Work with it strongly. If you are woken from the dreams in the middle of the night and can’t get back to sleep, get up and have a glass of hot milk or some peanut butter. Surprisingly, peanut butter works well for this – on whatever, carbs. What other has the right things? Yeah, warm milk, not chocolate milk, that’s got caffeine. Cambric tea if you prefer; cambric tea is a cup of tea made without tea, just the milk and the sweetener. Served to small children in England.
Try these two things to develop clarity and pay attention to what auxiliary practices you are doing during the day. Certain ones such as Trekchö, Yidam, will assist you in developing clarity. Next.
Nyondo: You explained traveling to the pure Dakini land and how that takes place. Would you be able to explain more about the importance of meeting the Dakinis in one’s dreams?
LL: Dakinis are symbols. Of the Dharmata. Thinking while meditating, meditating while thinking. Not separating. After you have gone through the stage in Mahamudra of separating the stillness from the moving. And have done true Tultra Naljor, yoga of dancing stillness. And seeing that they come together again; that the separation was not real. Although you need to pass through the stage of separating, otherwise you get confused about what is moving and what is stillness. And you start taking – mmmm – bits of the moving as stillness, if they’re profound, and that doesn’t work. So, the Dakinis are messengers; they can take you to places. Frequently Tibetans do not feel – people do not feel – that they can go to these places themselves. So the Dakinis take them there, because it is a symbol in the universal unconsciousness of clarity. It brings forth clarity.
There are other ways of getting to remarkable places other than dakinis. You can walk there. There is a trick to walking to a pure land. You have to first believe you can, and then holding the image of where you are going, clearly within the dream, you begin walking without consciously choosing the turns and twists. Simply with your visualization of the goal held clearly. You can frequently bring yourself forth within the dream without waking yourself up to a Ne, or a pure land, or some other place. However, the Dakinis are not inside you, or outside you, and they’re not all female. Dakas and Dakinis. Men tend to see them as the female polarity. Women tend to see them as the male polarity. The female polarity in Dakinis, the meaning of Dakinis is spaciousness. Dakas will be more likely to take you where you are needed. Where you might be of assistance. They are the male symbol of Bodhicitta. They are symbols but they also exist as a people in their own right, as practitioners.
Levels within levels of that word, which is why we don’t call them fairies in English. My favorite ancient translation- this is way back in the old days, somebody came up with it trying to translate Vajra Dakinis – they came out as diamond fairies. I’ve always loved that one. I think that might even have been Keith or John? Someone now well known, who has come up with much better translations for it. This is when we were all first just learning Tibetan. Back in the days. Always used to make me think of some big bearded guy in a tutu and a diamond tiara with a wand shedding glitter traipsing through the Castro. But that’s just my image for a diamond fairy. I digressed. Oops. Next question.
Nyondo: How detailed should our dream journaling be? Should we follow any order – forward backward, random, does not matter?
LL: As detailed as necessary for you to remember your dreams. This will vary for different people there isn’t a single answer for everyone. Pretty detailed. It is a focus of attention on the dream time. The stronger that focus of attention the better this works.
Nyondo: Will Tummo or working with the central channel help with clarity in dream yoga?
LL: Yes, a great deal. If you have the instructions in Tummo. And you know how to do it safely and are working with that. Yes, as an auxiliary practice that goes with this it will be excellent.
Nyondo: Somebody’s commenting that peanuts are also high in magnesium, which may help with sleep.
LL: Mm hmm. That may well be I’m not sure why peanut butter works so well but it seems to.
Nyondo: What do you do when physical tightness around the chest is related to disease, but also emotional stress, and has been interfering with this work with dream yoga?
LL: Get a massage, if you can safely in the time of COVID. If not, any of the many physical relaxation techniques that exist in this world: stretching, dancing, visualizing. That the disease should be under whatever treatment it’s under. See your doctor for diseases. And your tendency to hold stress there is a problem. The most de-stressing practice that I can think of – three: Trekcho done properly, in a relaxed way. Chenrezig sadhana, done properly in a relaxed way. Refuge done properly, with the necessary faith and certainty, that it allows you to feel safe and certain. None of these practices will really help for stress if you don’t do them right, if you’re tightening and grasping. They really do have to be done in a relaxed way. If you find that difficult, consider creating more Gewa in your environment, in all your relations. As that will lead to relaxation naturally, and is probably the easiest to do. Next.
Nyondo: I got spooked by my first try using the nine breaths and invoking protectors, dreaming I was violently raped. So I haven’t done it this way since. I still do Trekcho and remembering dreams. Do you have advice?
LL: The fear of rape must be a big one for you to have had that reaction. Do it again and go back to that dream of violence, and take refuge. If you can. If you cannot, you probably have a PTSD around either an experience in this life or past lives of being raped. Which is really stuck in your channels. As you began to clear out the channels it activated. And so it arose in the dream. It is possible to complete a karma in the dream so that one need not live it again. Unfortunately, when there is a PTSD, one has a tendency to bring forth that experience again and again. So a PTSD about rape will cause you to be in fear of being raped, frequently. A PTSD about being robbed will cause you to be in fear of being robbed, frequently. Although we have Tibetan methods that work with them, I personally think EMDR is a lot faster. And I have seen good success even working with Tibetan refugees with that method. You will need a qualified therapist but it is something which can be done with phone or social distancing or Zoom, as needed. Next.
Nyondo: When I do these practices for a bit, I seem to start doing them without much awareness. How do I do them in an awake way rather than them just being another thing I do asleep?
LL: I’m trying to understand how that feels, in order to answer the question. The practices of the daytime… Okay, are you referring to the daytime or the nighttime practices? The AH, the before going to bed practices, or the during the day practices? And wait until they come back with that and give me a different one.
Nyondo: Okay, just a moment. There’s quite a few in the chat here.
LL: Oh, yeah.
Nyondo: I once played around with siddhis in a dream and heard an angry voice telling me not to do it. Haven’t had much lucidity since then. Any advice?
LL: You scared yourself. You feel that it is wrong to play around with siddhis in a dream. It’s not. They come and go. You probably feel that it’s wrong to play around with them in daily life. They come and go. Come and go siddhis are not uncommon. The real ones, Moishe? That’s different. But little come and go magics are everywhere. Magic pervades the universe. Magic. It’s simply a part of the interconnectedness. Sometimes one can do things that are more remarkable than other times. It’s a mood, it comes and goes. I think you may be taking karma and advice about what might be dangerous to do as wrong. It’s not wrong, to not look where you’re going and fall in a hole. People do that sometimes, it’s not wrong or bad or evil. It’s probably not a good idea. You can sprain an ankle doing that. But it’s not bad. It’s just likely to cause you to do yourself a mischief. Work on separating your beliefs in goods and bads from your Dharma practice. Next.
Nyondo: When realizing a dream is a dream, I get excited and wake up-
LL: Oh yeah.
Nyondo : What can I do to prevent that?
LL: That’s just practice. When you realize you’re dreaming, the first step and that’s a lot of what I wanted to talk about is how to work with lucid dreams today. The first step is simply to see how long you can stay in the dream aware of that. You do that by completely going along with the situation in the dream. Once you are able to be aware in the dream without getting all excited about it, once this has become ordinary for you, then we can begin working with the dream. But first you’ve got to get lucidity down to an ordinary occurrence. That’s gonna take time and practice. I’m teaching this to you much faster than it was taught to me. There’s only two weeks between teachings instead of months or even years. Because that’s how long it takes to actually get it working. People are impatient now. And some people are already at different levels; have already done some practices. So I’m teaching this faster than usual. But do not expect yourself to be going that fast. Slog away.
Nyondo: The person who asked about awareness in practices-
LL: Yes.
Nyondo: he says here, regarding my question, all of the practices, but I’m talking about the stuff I do when awake, the problem is doing stuff automatically, rather than with presence. This happens with many of my practices and they lose effect.
LL: Yup. You need inspiration. What inspires you? Also, you need to use the tool of mindfulness. It’s a tool. Mindfulness in Tibetan has to do with using your memory to bring your attention back where you want it. Again and again. Not yanking it, not scolding yourself that it wandered off. But just Ah-ah, no. That’s really your key, is the mindfulness. And find something that inspires you. Keep an altar. Keep a beautiful altar. That will often hold energy for you. The glow of the butter lamp, the fresh flowers, the Torma. Fall in love with the sky if you are male, or yang energized, fall in love with form if you are Yin energy, the dance of form is beautiful. It is of the nature of Bhodicitta. Sky space is the symbol of the infinite openness of awareness. Fall in love with these, or with a symbol of these such as a Dakini, a Daka, an image of a Dakini, an image of a Daka. Find what will inspire you in your practice. I have certain books I grab, if I notice that I have lost inspiration and mindfulness has become more difficult, I’ll sometimes grab the poetry of the Bon lineage and read a few of those for inspiration. Or any number of texts, some of the namtars some of the stories. But find out what works for you to add inspiration. Next.
Nyondo: Oh there was a good one, hang on a minute. The question was working with imaginary friends and how do we test the things we see with teeth?
LL: If you will be working with off-plane beings, imaginary friends and things with teeth, you better know how to say “no!” If in your daily life, and someone calls you and asks you to volunteer for this, and you have trouble saying no! And you find you get bushwhacked into doing things and attending places and other things that you really didn’t wanna. Because you couldn’t actually bring yourself to say no! Then you have no business talking to anything out there. How do you test them? Ask them to take Refuge. You take Refuge and see what happens. Invite them to take Refuge with you. Generally, things with teeth will wander off not being terribly interested in that.
Nyondo: Is it important to review our dream journal regularly? Or is it simply recording the dreams the more important part?
LL: Recording the dreams in most instances is the more important part. Occasionally, if you have a dream of clarity, in which you receive teachings, reviewing that occasionally can be useful.
Nyondo: Can you give us detailed information concerning a routine for when waking up in the morning?
LL: Wake up. Go sit. As you sit, take Refuge. Arise Bodhicitta. Relax into Trekcho. Ah. I left something out. If there were dreams when you wake up, sit up, pick up your dream journal or your stick or however you’re working it and speak your dreams. Once you have done that, then go sit. You don’t have to recite Refuge or arising Bodhicitta. Just do it. Make it work. Do it for real inside is enough. Reciting it is also good if that helps you to do it for real inside. You have not spoken casually yet. This is before looking at your iPad, your cell phone, or speaking to your partner. Having arisen Bodhicitta after taking Refuge, do the nine breaths. Clear out your channels and rest in Trekcho for a time. When the time you have allotted to this in the morning is finished, do not abandon the Trekcho. Get up. Continue the Trekcho through the day. If you are working Dream Yoga, be aware that your practice of Trekcho is a dream; that you who practices is a dream. But continue to practice. Like that.
Nyondo: Do you have suggestions on how to clearly visualize the AH symbol, I have trouble holding the mental image clearly?
LL: Remember the stick I talked about? Get yourself one of those sticks and print out the AH I gave you – the one in the rainbows and stick it on the stick, stick the bottom of the stick, in a big coffee mug or a can or something full of grain, so that it stands up. It should be at exactly the right height for you so that it is exactly at the level of the end of your nose straight out. Rest your gaze on the AH on the stick. Rest your mind on the AH on the stick. This will assist you in your visualization of AH,
Nyondo: What are the dreams that show what will happen? Every time I move to another country to live, that move happens spontaneously, but I have had a dream that indicates the move. Are these streams of clarity?
LL: Level two clarity. It happens for some people some time because of the amount of Gewa that they have created and spread. Is it useful to you? Next.
Nyondo: The person with the rape imagery had a follow up question-
LL: yes.
Nyondo: And I’m looking for that. She says here, I don’t think I have rape fear. I do have fear of invoking blessings and protection before sleep. That this is what brought about the dream. Do you have advice?
LL: I take it the dream was unpleasant for you and not kinky. If that is the case, your taking Refuge will not have brought about the dream. Possibly your opening up some of your channels may have caused karma to manifest. If the dream was unpleasant, how are you not afraid of the unpleasantness? Or are you afraid of the fact that the dream was pleasant? Hmm. I think maybe we better talk more on email about this. There may be things you don’t want to put out here in public. Even though I’m not saying a name.
Nyondo: It’s taken me 35 plus years to get to the points you’re describing. What practices fix it, specifically accelerate the process?
LL: Gewa, Trekcho, Ngondro. Certain Rushens. Virtually any practice. However, the most effective way to accelerate Dream Yoga is to practice Dream Yoga day in, day out, without forgetting about it for years at a time. Because how it takes so long, is you get into it with great enthusiasm for a few months, and then something else comes up that’s interesting and you go do that instead. That’s usually what slows it down. At least in my experience. And yeah, it took me about that long too, if not longer.
Nyondo: An interesting question about combining practices. Says here I’m using a Yoni egg and obsidian stone inside the vagina for healing. This Yoni egg is used during the night and brings to the surface of consciousness, my shadow of consciousness for work with old memories and old hurts. How can I combine this practice with Dream Yoga? I’ve been using the Yoni egg practice for about a year now.
LL: It is not a practice that I personally am familiar with. But I can talk about how to deal with old hurts. One of the ways when you are really dealing with a situation that has happened to you – and are you sure you want bath salt for that? I would have thought Jade. Bath salts awfully grounding.
Not sure you want to ground that chakra that much. But anyway, just from what I know of working with stones. But you’re following an instruction with someone who probably knows a lot more than I do about that practice about which I know nothing at all.
So, we often use Chenrezig’s blessing across time to go back and bless who we were when the trauma occurred. So that it occurs and is perceived differently by us at the time, and the new memories arise. That can be very powerful. All of a sudden, you find a hidden memory that your fairy godmother or something came and blessed you after the bad thing happened and then made you feel better. So you weren’t hurt and angry. And you’d forgotten that you had that dream the night after. And how much better it made you feel, and remembering that you’d had that dream. Do you see? The past is not fixed.No more than the future. You can change the past. Since all you have to go on of the past is your memories of how you felt, of how you now think you felt then. Pretty flexible. So you can bless all those in the circumstance that occurred in past occurrences, and that’s very powerful. And that’s done with the Chenrezig sadhana and sending those rays of light from the lotus out across time and space. And you can actually visualize those rays going out across time, to a past very difficult situation, and touching the heart of all those involved and opening their hearts and softening and soothing the occurrence. This is doable. You can also go back in a dream and do it differently. More difficult. Certain experiences have an inertia of their own. You can also do the Inner Body Rushen and clean out that chakra. Although you need to have certain skills in order to undertake that practice. Next.
Nyondo: We’re having internet connection issues. Bear with me for a minute. Okay. Hopefully that has not killed anything. Oh the internet loves us so much.
LL: Try the other router.
Nyondo: Yeah. Okay, so it’s up. Let me just review comments to see – a number of people having comments. Another question about, can you speak about practicing in a dream?
LL: Yes. Any practice you do in a dream is usually a lot stronger than around here. So because of the flexibility of dream if you practice the visualizations of your Yidam sadhana, you can actually experience sensually that sadhana. And you can experience being your Yidam and laughing – the laugh of the Herukas, the Herukis. Delightful. Try it. If you are working on, say, the speech Rushen, if you do that in a dream, you can actually see the destruction of the universe. Feel it incredibly strongly. If you are doing Trekcho, and you do Trekcho in a dream, it is incredibly profound. Whatever your practice is – the Chenrezig sadhana, done in a dream, Tonglen done in a dream, it can actually happen. What is visualized comes to pass; the dreams are flexible. Also, you can become more flexible. As you begin to work with dreams, change things. Small things, fruit, cups, things that are similar, and that the change will not change the story of the dream. Start there first. If in the story of the dream, your coffee is in a silver cup, put where you can’t see it, bring it back in a black cup.
In the beginning do not try – actually I have never had any good effect trying to change things while looking at them. I’m also lousy at just imagining myself someplace and going there, I have to walk there, or fly there. Or – take a purple crayon and draw a door and walk through it to get there. I have to make the story or it wakes me up. I have not heard tell of others not having their experiences this way. So you have to pull your changes into the story. When you change the color of your cup, you change the color that was removed from the shelf in the morning. You don’t just change it in the moment. You change its past. Where this gets interesting – once you have successfully stayed asleep and not woken yourself up – and if you change too many things you’re going to wake up. You have to take it really slow and gentle. Lucidity is a level in dream. If you bounce up from it, you come to awakeness, you lose the dream. If you go, descend too far into the story, you lose the lucidity. So it’s a real balancing act. And you just got to practice to get that balance. Once you have it, you can be Buddha. You can go to Vultures Peak and hear the original teachings and understand the language. Someone wrote to me that they had a dream of speaking with Karmapa and other great teachers, but that it was very frustrating because they don’t speak Tibetan. It is not necessary, you are taking your belief systems into your dream. Your belief that you don’t speak Tibetan and that they don’t speak English. This is yours. It’s not real. It’s a thought belief system.
Once you are in dream time, your homo sapien channel pattern does not have to retain all of that crap. If you do the blowing out your channels, the big yawn where you breathe in through the nose, stretch your channels out to infinity all the way and then relax, just that can be incredibly profound. And from the dream time as you relax, it does not have to snap back into homo sapien. Go listen to the beautiful poetry of the dolphins. Go practice the octopi Tsa Lung. Which is really different from ours because they don’t have a vertebrae, no central channel. A central sphere and eight primary channels radiating from the central sphere, completely different for doing Tsa Lung. Fascinating. A lot of this I’m going to have to pick you up in the dream time and show you. Or introduce you to others who can show you how to do that, how to not be homo sapien. How to not be singular. How to be many. If you’re doing Tonglen in daily life, that will assist you in finding out how to be many in the dream time. Not singular you but the entire population of Earth including the bugs, all of it.
And expand from there to be everything and everyone, everywhere, all Buddhas of the four times and all beings of the three realms simultaneously.
You can dream this, but all you can return with as a memory of it is the words describing that it happened. You cannot remember the feeling. Don’t even try. I puked for about six hours when I tried to remember that. How it felt, the channel pattern of it. So when you come back, it’s okay if all you remember is that it did happen, but not how it felt to happen. Because a lot of things, once you return to homo sapien form, don’t fit. I remember the beauty of the sonar songs, which are somewhere between sound and visual. No, that’s trying to describe it here. I cannot describe that sense here. I don’t have that sense organ here. You can be infinitely different things in different places. You can expand your limits. And that’s what this is good for. Those little belief systems that you’re tripping on, at least now you’re knowing where they are, like you believe in language. You think you don’t speak Tibetan. You think in the dream time the teachers can’t speak English to you, the ones who normally don’t do it in the daytime. You think they have those limits. See, those are where you’re stuck. Dream time is for wiggling unstuck with this. Kapeesh?
Start with something simple. Go slowly. Don’t try to jump into the most profound things. You’ll wake yourself up, or you’ll lose lucidity; you’ll go up or you’ll go down. You really got to practice maintaining the lucidity through the dream without losing the dream, and that takes time. Eventually, your dreams will become a coherent whole, as is your life. But you will not be able to remember all of that except in dream time. Ah…it’s different. The next teaching has to be out there, I have to show you what you can do, lucidly. Beside a lake where there is a spring in a cave, which is a shrine to nature to nature, to Mother Nature. It flows out from that spring in the cave, it’s a big cave. Filling a pond around the front of it and within it, you could swim into the cave. And then it goes into a stream and it fills a big lake. And there’s a very old temple beside the lake. Meet me there. It’s one of the places I go to often. Don’t change anything there, we’ll go somewhere else to play. Last time somebody messed with that place – it got all hard to use. There’s another place. God what is this place? It’s at sunset. It’s in the desert. It’s a series of pillars and sandstone arches open to the sky. It is a known dream time meeting place for a number of species’ dream Yogis. If you find – if you can get there and you don’t find me, you’ll certainly find some very interesting beings who can show you interesting things. In order to get to either of these places, you will have to learn to maintain your lucidity while changes occur.
I get to both of these places by walking there. It’s a special kind of walking in the dream where you walk through the dream changing, as if you’re stepping from universe – from reality to reality, as you move your feet. Meet me in either of those places. Since neither of them exist at a particular point in time or space, we should be able to overlap there. I’ll take you to listen to the sonar poetry of the great whales. And other things that you didn’t know you could do. Learn the balance first. Of not either throwing yourself out of the dream because you got all excited and enthusiastic and started poking too many things, or dropping back into non lucidity because you were paying, following the story too strongly. It’s a really funny little place.
Normally, in dreams you cannot read. Not well. If you look at a text and you look away and you look back, it’ll be slightly different. It’ll say different things. If you ever encounter a text that doesn’t change in dream time, that is probably a dream of clarity, and you’re probably looking at a Terma. And you may have found where they keep the Termas, which is always fun. That doesn’t mean you’re supposed to bring them forth. Just cause you find a Terma doesn’t mean you’re supposed to share the Terma. Just enjoy it. If you are supposed to share it, someone out of the blue will ask you for it. Never push your Termas from your side. Work with them – they’re for you – but bringing them out is another story. There has to be certain coincidences of serendipity for that to be done properly. So wait for those. I know at least some of you have found a few Termas in there, who have talked to me privately. Wait for the coordinated serendipity that shows that this is supposed to go here. Until then, it’s for you. You use it, you do it. You let it help your practice.
I’m gonna do some questions now.
Nyondo: Okay. Is fear in newbies normal? I feel odd and unprepared – I think the person meant here- for the unknown. I have had many nightmares. Any advice?
LL: Yeah. If the unknown is frightening for you, stay with the known for now. More work with Refuge. Basic ordinary Ngöndro, maybe Extraordinary Ngöndro. If you’re afraid of the unknown, Dzogchen and Trekchö will be difficult for you. However, you can begin with the early stages of Mahamudra, which will lead there anyway. Work with the preliminaries, especially Refuge, until you are not afraid anymore. They say that lion’s milk can only be contained in a golden pot. It will shatter any other. That’s a very Tibetan analogy. They say that when the lion roars in the jungle, all the wild animals cower in terror except the lion cubs. They recognize the voice of their mother. These are the analogies. So if you are feeling that this is all too new to you and you are frightened of the unknown, don’t insist that you poke at it first. Find the safety of Refuge. Learn to rely on it. Work with Chenrezig and Tara until a certain amount of heart safety – certainty in Dharma arises for you. Then walk forward into the unknown, because it’s your mama. Next.
Nyondo: Number of questions featuring you in the dream time.
LL: I get around.
Nyondo: Well, this one, I’ll wait till you finish drinking coffee. The night before the part two session I dreamt you gave me a kiss and then kicked me in the nuts. Was this you?
LL: Yep. Did it work?
Nyondo: Um, another question. I had a sleep paralysis incident a few nights ago. How can I work with this, so it does not happen again?
LL: I have it every morning. I don’t know if this is a result of the amount of stuff I do in the dream time. I know I sleep more than most people, in order to get my own personal sleep and whatever work I’m doing. But I also know that when I awaken in the morning, I can barely move. And it takes me quite a while before I can get into my hands and my toes. When I get up to pee at night, I am always in danger of falling over because I’m barely in the legs. I have been known to fall over. It’s why when I travel, I insist on being somewhat near a bathroom. To people who put me upstairs and downstairs from the nearest bathroom….maybe I’ll make it? Maybe you’ll hear a thump-a-thump thunk thunk.
So I don’t know what to tell you about that. I find it to be a normal occurrence. And it wears off. It just, you know, stretch bits, trying to get in. If this is in between dreams it’s ‘cause you’ve still got one foot in the dream time. There is a Western science, a brain chemical release to keep you from sleepwalking. Which is really good. You need that. Otherwise, you get up and do all sorts of strange things like people do on that one kind of sleeping pill where they get up and drive places and do weird things. So I don’t really know how to counter it except patience. Or go back into the next dream. Or go back into the old dream if you didn’t like it and it was a nightmare and change it.
For as long as that particular hormone is running in your body, you’re half in dream time. You can get back in real easy and continue whatever you were doing. You can get back into the same place you came out of. That’s the best I can offer. I don’t really have a solution to that one.
Nyondo: How do we know we are safe while doing these practices?
LL: Why would you think you were safe? Dharma isn’t safe. Did someone tell you it was? The Tibetans forget to tell you that Dharma isn’t safe. Look, if you’re in a burning building and you jump out the second floor window, it’s not safe. But it is preferable to burning to death. Dharma is like that. No, it’s not safe. So you’re gonna have to use common sense and not sabotage yourself or do anything stupid. That’s a Tibetan “goes without saying”.
Nyondo: If one meets one’s teacher in a lucid dream are there standard things to do?
LL: Prostrate. That’s standard for a Tibetan. For a Westerner, tell them how totally delighted you are to see them and ask them for teachings. Next.
Nyondo: Is there something I have to think about or visualize, to easier induce lucid dreaming? I often don’t remember anything. I am better at dreaming strongly during my period or during the full moon.
LL: Do you menstruate on the full moon? Many do – and – great! So you want to cycle this practice to emphasize it during that week where you’ve got the best ability for it. And you may wish to emphasize other practices in the other three weeks. Nice to know where it’s easy, do it where it’s easy. Next.
Nyondo: A couple of questions about the book in front of you on dream yoga.
LL: Yes.
Nyondo: the one with the eyes. Which one is that and-
LL: That’s Norbu Rinpoche’s.
Nyondo: Are those eyes supposed to be Buddha?
LL: Yeah.
Nyondo: Or is it just an illustration there?
LL: That’s an illustration.
Nyondo: Okay.
LL: This is Norbu Rinpoche’s. This is by Alan Wallace. And this one is by Tenzin Wangyal. I use them as references, and they’re differently suitable for different people. Norbu Rinpoche’s. Some good stories and just the pith, just enough to make it work, but not enough to make yourself crazy with the complexities of the practice. B. Alan Wallace: set up excellently for Westerners. It is published by Shambhala. Very well done, and entirely in a Western matrix. And this, Tenzin Wangyal’s, very detailed, very complex, and pretty much entirely in a Tibetan matrix. Although he does translate the analogies into something that will make more sense to a Westerner. Yeah, the lions milk one. Not part of your culture. Everybody knows that you can’t keep lions milk in a clay pot. Should you have any, should you have successfully milked a lion. Which is not easy.
Nyondo: There was also a question about the Bon poetry, and what recommendations do you have for people who’d like to see that or read more about it?
LL: Contact the Bon teachers. Contact their sanghas, contact their lineage. Get involved. Make offerings. They have gorgeous stuff. Oh, some of the most beautiful pure Dzogchen, end stage Dzogchen that I’ve ever seen. Next.
Nyondo: What’s the effect of marijuana and this kind of thing on lucidity and lucid dreaming?
LL: I find that high CBD is helpful when I am having interference from leg cramps. Physically, I sometimes get leg cramps during the night. Unknown reason. No, none of the doctors know either. And boy, have we tried some different things. So since Valium interferes- it works- but it interferes with dream time. CBD does not seem to either benefit or interfere. I haven’t tried Sativas for this, they make me too hungry. I end up just getting up in the middle of the night and snacking on things which is not the point. So that’s why they might not work for me. You’ll have to do your own experiences, your own experiments. There is nothing in the texts that leads me to think it would be one way or the other. Now there is a form of Sage, Sativa Divinitorium, it grows around here in the Bay area. Anyone who can get me a plant, I really want to grow it in the garden. That burned as an incense at bedtime is said to be very helpful….what other power drugs?
Nyondo: Haven’t people asked about mushrooms I think?
LL: Yeah, and I frankly haven’t tried it. I don’t know. Mushrooms, Ayahuasca , wood – that’s African – um, Datura, that just moves the dream time into the daytime so you can’t tell the difference. Sedocsmeal throat of the camel in North Africa. I can tell you that Datura is only helpful in breaking down some barriers and very dangerous to work with because of the overdose, an effective dose and an overdose are too close. And that it does cause you to be unable to tell the difference between dream time and wake time. And you can change the red cup to blue while you’re awake. Which is kind of an interesting experience. But also weird shit happens. I don’t recommend it for this purpose. It’s used ceremonially to other purposes in some lineages. I have not tried mixing dream yoga with any of the other traditionals like Peyote, acid, mushrooms. So I really can’t answer.
Nyondo: Someone’s suggesting mugwort.
LL: It’s more of a-
Nyondo: Yeah-
LL: Respiratory. And yes, if you have any problem with breathing like asthma, it’s going to negatively affect your dream time work. So before bed, if mugwort tea – yea, give it a try, I don’t know. I have not done a lot of experimenting with different herbs with this. So I really – and nor have I found in any of these textual references to different herbs, except in one text somewhere else, not in one of these, a reference to the Salvia Divinorum.
Nyondo: I’ve had dreams where there are two or three of me and have discussed the dream story with my selves, inside the dream, sometimes changing in these-
LL: Good!
Nyondo: is this lucid dreaming?
LL: Yes, it is you’re doing really well. It may not be lucid at the time, but it is very excellent. You’ve already broken down the singular barrier. Which is hard for many people. Oh, keep going! You’re doing good. That’s something I thought I would have to teach you how to do out there in dream time. But some of you manage it on your own. The practice that synergizes with that is Tonglen. Especially once you reach the stage that it’s a herd of gnats that you’re doing it with, or a flock of gulls.
Nondo: There was an earlier question, when you break into multiple beings like this in the dream time, does that affect your chances of a human rebirth – of rebirth as a singular being?
LL: Only in such that it makes it not a requirement that you take rebirth singularly. Actually, what makes you think you usually take rebirth singly? You’re an ecology, not an individual. Interactive, interpenetrating, interrelating as a clump with all the other clumps. What individual? If you have a yeast overgrowth and the sugar craving caused by the yeast causes you to steal a doughnut. Who gets the karma, you or the yeast? You don’t all die at the same time, you and your microbes. They’re dying all the time. Do you incarnate together or separately? Your personality is vastly influenced by your biome. You are an ecology, not an entity. And you can’t possibly all incarnate in the same entity together, you don’t all die at the same time. Some of you stay around and eat the corpse. Next.
Nyondo: Let me find it because it was a good question – is it possible to receive Dzogchen transmission in a dream? There were a couple of questions about-
LL: Yes
Nyondo: receiving wangs or the lung transmission in a dream but they’ve never had it in real life, like gone to – before a teacher physically and had it.
LL: If you got it in a dream, you got it. A lot of times a particular archetype may emerge to you in the dream and give you their initiation. This is extremely auspicious. It would be good to cross your T’s and dot your i’s and at some point get it in waking too, for the synergistic effect of having it on both sides. But yes, you can read the book if you got the lung in the dream. Dzogchen transmission can be given in dream time. Often is. Remember, all Buddhas of the four times would like nothing better than to be all Buddhas of the four times as they are. And since all Buddhas arise out of all sentient beings in the culmination of their path, they are motivated to enlighten all life. So you just ask them, they’d be delighted. Any Buddha.
Nyondo: We were speaking of sleep paralysis earlier. So I thought I would forward this question.
LL: mm-hmm
Nyondo: I sometimes stop breathing in my sleep and dream I cannot breathe and I know I’m dreaming-
LL: You need a C-pap.
Nyondo: And my mind is awake. And I cannot move my body; it takes a lot of effort.
LL: Okay, you may be in danger. Physically, you need a C-pap machine. Go get yourself checked out, get a sleep study. In fact I believe there are some sleep study things that you can wear at home without exposing yourself in any way. I think you should look into this. People who stop breathing in their sleep, to the point of it waking them up, they are either slightly overweight and have fallen onto their back or their tongue has fallen back enough to occlude. Or it’s a CNS problem where the reflex that tells you to breathe is not strong enough. But both of these cases are physical, medical and really should be checked out.
Nyondo: Is Vajrasattva practice possible through dream yoga. In which stage would this happen?
LL: In any stage that you felt the need – and absolutely, yes it is.
Nyondo: I do the practice of clear light from Norbu Rinpoche every night but have a difficult time visualizing things and falling asleep. Any advice?
LL: Noodle soup just before bed. It’s a carb loading, tukpa, hot milk, peanut butter, camomile tea.
And I am somewhat familiar with Norbu’s clear light practice, and would suggest that you hold it more loosely. That instead of perceiving clear light, you sort of settled into being made of clear light in a really safe and reassuring way. A softness not to the light, but not a sharpness to the light, a transparency of all phenomena. And then with your eyes closed, begin to see the pictures that are arising, put your attention on the pictures, see them as made of clear light. Images, transparent in transparency. Slide in there. Now usually, your primary dream time does not happen in the first part of sleep. You go in through the door into dreams, and there’s a little bit of dreaming there. And then you drop into Theta. Now you can rest in clear light in Theta, which is lovely. Kind of like, oh in the Bardo, that stage where you are absorbed into clear light. After the red and white came together, and the darkness as it dawns, kind of like that. But later in the night is when active dreaming occurs. Some people, determining when their dream time is strongest, arrange to gently awaken enough to replace their practice which may have been forgotten in Theta and go back into lucid dreaming. In certain Tibetan practices, you wake every two hours and change the visualization. We’re not going there today.
Nyondo: Could you discuss being too attached to an experience? Past lives, siddhis, stuff like that? What negative things could happen to the student if they do this?
LL: Oh, the local um – what do you call it – place where they put people who can’t manage – asylum? is full of Jesuses and mother Marys. That’s a danger. You can justify your existence by dream-scaping, going into imaginary fantasies of being important throughout time. Oh God, I’ve known people to do this to – they’re incarnation of the snake God, and then they’re doing something with this and they have to fulfill this thing in this life, and then they have to find their soul mate so that – you can make the most elaborate edifices out of some slight past life experience of having been a snake last time. And then, see when people do this they’re looking for some importance. Something to say, I am an important person, I’m not like all the grey folk who hustle around here. I’m something, somebody. That’s how you get attached to an experience. It justifies your importance. You will have to get over your desire for that eventually. And it’s hard. But what am I for? So until such time as you’re comfortable putting that down. Be a Hero. Be a Bodhisattva. Let that fill that need, because that need is there, in all people. Next.
Nyondo: Quick question about the Buddhas of the four times. Someone needed to know which- what are the four times that you’re referring to?
LL: Past, present, future, and imaginary. Past, present, future, and the fourth time is beyond time, outside of space, unfathomable.
Nyondo: How is the devotion to my Guru related to dream yoga? Guru yoga and dream yoga, how
do those relate?
LL: It should inspire you to go see your guru in the dream time, to interact. Devotion allows you to open your heart to the teachings. Without the necessary devotion, you won’t let it in. Not really. You’ll take it apart. You’ll judge. You’lll judge it according to your belief systems. And you’re trying to get loose from those. So when you judge a teaching according to your belief systems, it’s not going to help you get out of those belief systems. So the antidote to that is devotion. That was a simplification.
Nyondo: Any comments about Carlos Castaneda? Somebody asked if you were familiar with Carlos Castenada’s-
LL: I am quite familiar. I’ve enjoyed his books. Great talented writer. He told the stories so well, playing the fool. A wonderful writer, very inspiring to many of us.
Nyondo: I usually remember my dreams, but I rarely have lucid dreams. What can I do to become more lucid?
LL: The daytime practices. The most effective, most powerful one of those is the walking around all day experiencing the day as a dream. If you do that well, it will flow over into the dream time.
Nyondo: If you receive teachings on Nagas and then dream of Nagas is that significant?
LL: Teachings went in perhaps. You are interested in the subject. It may or may not be significant.
Nyondo: You mentioned Bodhisattva. Is the dream time a place to be effective as one too?
LL: Yes. Decide in the dream time that you wish to be of use to sentient beings and walk through your dream committing gewa. How many more do we have here?
Nyondo: Of the questions? Not that many. There’s a number of interpretation questions where we would rather encourage people to email you directly, I think.
LL: Yeah, let me go with the more general questions. I can’t interpret your dreams as well as you can. You can try me. But you may get a “I don’t know.”
Nyondo: I would ask a couple of questions related to – well – I dreamed of you, Lama Lena or some other teacher. Does that mean that that is my guru?
LL: No. It does not necessarily mean that. It will depend on what happened in the dream. Now, I met my teacher in dream time before I met him in life. Have I told you that story? Perhaps not.
I had gone to many teachers. Sort of with “are you my mama? Are you my mama? Are you my mama?” And they all said no, get out of here, kid. You’re not mine. You’re not mine, go away. As many teachers as I could find.
Oh, I’d gone to Lama Yeshe who was my teacher and said, “are you my teacher? Are you my root Guru?” And he said, “No, dear, I’m not. I’m your babysitter, I’m not your mama. You’ll find your teacher. It’s not me. But I’ll look after you until such time as you’re ready for that.” Anyway, I’d been with him, I’d done an Ngondro, I’d done this, I’d done that. Done many things, practiced. Some of them worked. Some of them didn’t work. Never did get Tara to work in those days. Eventually traced the memory that had the block and dealt with that. But good results with Manjushri retreat and with Ngondro and Vajrasattva. Big change with the Bodhisattva vows, but still, he wouldn’t tell me about Shunyata because he wasn’t my root Guru.
So finally, after I finished Ngöndro and then went and asked everybody, and everybody said no. I asked Khamtrul Rinpoche. I asked Cetul Rinpoche. I asked Karmapa. I asked Yeshe Dorje. I asked – Jesus, everybody. All over the place. Every Lama I could find that spoke any English. I didn’t speak Tibetan very well then. I mean, hardly at all. I could say “tashi deleg”, and chang. So I finally in frustration said “okay, this is not working. Nothing I’m doing is working.” And I sat down in the forest under a tree and I stuck my Phurba in the ground. And I said I’m not leaving here until my teacher turns up. Live or die. Not leaving. I had some food with me, some water. Eventually, I’d eaten it drunk it, still sat there. I must have been beginning to look a bit the worse for wear, when someone I had once asked to be a teacher, some years back before she went into a long retreat, and she’d said no, came out of retreat and walked past the tree. I’m like, “are you my teacher?” “No, I’m still not your teacher. What are you doing under this tree? You look somewhat worse for wear.” So I explained what I was doing. And she said, “you’re an idiot. You’re just gonna die.” I said “okay, but I’m gonna die face forward. I need a teacher. I can’t go any further without a teacher.” She said, “look, I’ll make you a deal. I need to go visit my teacher. My teacher is far from here. And I’ve been ill and I can’t manage to carry my own luggage. How about I take you with me? You’ve never met my teacher, you’ve never asked him. Let’s see. And I promise if it doesn’t work, I’ll put you back under this tree. Just the way I found you. But I need you for a week and you’re not serving anyone else here. You’re doing nothing Bodhisattvic and I need a Bodhisattva. So get up off your ass and come with me.”
Well, it all made sense what she said. So I decided to serve her for the 10 days or two weeks while she recovered, and carry her luggage and be her shapcha. And see if I met some more Lamas to ask if they were my teacher. And if none of it worked, I’d go back under the tree. So we went to Manali; this was in the forest up way up above Dharamsala where there was like wild forest, or was in those days. I’m sure it’s been built up by now. And we went to Manali where I met many teachers and I asked each one, and each one said ”no, you’re not mine. Go away. Get out of here, kid. No, I’m not going to teach you. No I won’t tell you what Shunyata means, yada yada.” Until the time was done, and I realized that it hadn’t worked and I would be going back under my tree and this time it would be permanent. And so we got on the bus from Manali to go and change buses in Mandi to get the bus to Dharamsala, carrying her luggage, although she was by then much stronger. And we missed the bus in Mandi. Just missed it. Somehow. Our bus got a flat tire or something happened, a tree in the road. But we just missed the bus for Dharamsala and we’re going to have to wait til the next day. So we’re stuck in Mandi. Behind the bus stand was this sleazy little tourist bungalow, and we didn’t have any money, we’re kids. So we get the cheapest room, which is down in the basement, smells of mold. It’s got two beds, a little window, full of mosquitoes. And it might even have been on for monsoon time. And spent the night.
And during the night I dreamed. And I dreamed that I was walking along a path around a mountain where all the rocks were covered with mantra carved in them. And there were wild flowers everywhere. And I went down through a gap between rocks, a path that went between rocks, it was steep. As if it was a womb, a uterus at this triangular sort of hole, I went through there and came around and I came to this big cave. Big cave. And I went in, and in the middle of the cave was a meditation box. And in the meditation box was a tall, skinny Yogi with great masses of matted hair. And black square glasses, askew – black square plastic glasses, askew – and eyes like Guru Rinpoche. And since in the dream language is not an issue, I said to him “can you show me the way? Can you show me the way to bring my mind through to full enlightenment? Can you teach me that?” He said “yes, I could, I can do that.” And then I woke up. And I woke up Jampa. “Jampa, Jampa wake up! I just had this dream”. And she just – I described the whole dream. And she said, “well, I’ve never heard of or seen a place like that, but I recognize the teacher.” And then I woke up again – “ I recognize the teacher, I can take you there.” And then I woke up again and realized that that had also been a dream. “Jampa, Jampa wake up!” “What do you want?” “I had this dream.” And I tell her the dream. And this time she says “well, I don’t know of any Lama that looks like that. But I recognize the place that you’re describing and I can take you there. It’s not far from here. Go back to sleep. I’ll take you in the morning.” So obviously I didn’t go back to sleep that night.
And the next morning we got a little bus, a little broken down bus that went for an hour, an hour and a half – where the road ended. Wasn’t much of a road, was a track. And we got off the bus and we started walking and we walked for a couple of hours up a mountain and we walked around down through this cleft. And we got up the mountain and all the rocks were covered, carved with mantra, and the wildflowers just like in the dream. The place was exactly that. And we went down through this triangular cleft and around and over to this big cave. And in the cave sitting in a meditation box was a short round monk with square plastic black glasses caddywhompus and eyes like Guru Rinpoche. I didn’t speak any Tibetan, neither did Jampa, but we did a lot of smiling back and forth. And broken Hindi. “Namaste.” And then -I couldn’t talk to him, I couldn’t ask him like I had in the dream, but I’d already asked him. So after that, I said to Jampa “okay, I’m staying. This is as far as I go. If you need I’ll walk you back down to town and get you on the bus.” And she said yes, because – carry the bag. So I did, and got her on the bus for Mandi, and she went back to Dharamsala.
And I went back up the mountain and found a rock that’s overhung like this and piled some rocks like a little cave around it and moved in. And I stayed. And the other Yogis on the mountain, there was about a dozen of us up there, began to teach me Tibetan by pointing at things and saying the word and just talking at me, like a little kid learns. And at one point, Rinpoche the teacher, I couldn’t really talk to him yet, um, noticed that I was under a rock, and I guess it was getting cold and maybe even raining. And I was not in a very good situation there. And so he showed me another empty cave that he had used at one point, that I could stay in, and it was much better. I built a fireplace and I stayed there. Anyway, I was there for the next eight years. Learned the language, translated for Rinpoche. Got teachings. When I first could speak a little Tibetan, I went to him and said “I want some teachings. Will you teach me?” And he said “do a Ngondro”. And I’m like, “I already did my Ngondro.” And he looked me up and down. And he said, “oh, I’m so sorry to tell you this, but it didn’t work. Do it again.” So my first year while I was learning the language I spent working on Ngondro again. But this time I paid attention. This time I did Ngondro to be doing Ngondro, rather than to have done Ngondro. And that makes all the difference.
So yes, sometimes it does mean it’s your teacher. But it really depends on the context. It might just mean it’s among your teachers. I’ve seen other teachers in dreams and had teachings and blessings. Any more questions? We’re getting towards the end here.
Nyondo: Yeah, there’s this one. What’s the difference between people, things in my lucid dream, and the people and things in my waking life?
LL: Most of the people and things in most dreams are you. You just don’t know it. The people in waking life are also you in the context of big you, not little you. So the people and things in the dream are in the context of little you, and the people and things in waking life are in the context of big you, big mind little mind, Sem and Semne. In waking life we’re all in this together. And what is this? Samsara and Nirvana. All living beings, and all Buddhas of the four times. Just a difference of perspective. There really isn’t as much difference between dream time and awake time as you think there is. Because even in awake time, the people you experience, your experience of them, the things you experience, your experience of those things, all of this arises in your own mind and dissolves in your own mind and has never been anywhere other than your own mind. And the same may be said for awake time.
If you dream you are a butterfly looking at a man looking at a butterfly. And the butterfly is afraid of the man. But the man is not feeling fear. And you’re in both of these. The fear of the butterfly as an individual is very real. The attraction the man feels wanting to touch the butterfly as a man is very real, as real as anything else. Separate individuals and yet the same individual. This may be considered to be true on some level when you’re awake as well. But you can take certain liberties in dreams that you cannot take when awake such as flying, changing things and going to places without buying a ticket.
Anymore in there? And we are good for today.
I think in some time, we’ll do another one on Dream Yoga and see where you’re getting to. How you’re doing, so practice well. And we’ll see what we do in future. You have enough to work with. Now you got to come find me, so I can show you the rest because you can’t do it from this side. You can’t even describe it. I can’t tell you how to make a sonar sense organ from here but I can show you there. How to turn into a seal, a Selkie and swim the waters. That’s one of the easiest because the pattern is so much there already. But it’s a small jump from there to being a dolphin or whale and listening to the poetry.
Practice. Awake and asleep, practice. You sleep for at least a third of your entire life. There is so much more you could do with that. So much more fun you could have with that. So much more amazing experiences you could experience with that. So much for more useful practice you can do with that.
(Dedicating the Merit)
We are complete for today.
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